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Judge: Local church belongs to parish, not Episcopal diocese
VirtueOnline ^ | 8/15/05

Posted on 08/17/2005 1:12:26 PM PDT by dukeman

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1 posted on 08/17/2005 1:12:27 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: dukeman

Good to see. Unfortunately, Liberal elites have slimed their way into certain Church hierarchies.


2 posted on 08/17/2005 1:14:27 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: dukeman
On August 16, 2004, the membership of St. James Church voted overwhelmingly to disassociate from the Episcopal Church USA over issues of Biblical orthodoxy and to join the Anglican Province of Uganda in the Diocese of Luweero, which is a member of the worldwide Anglican Communion.

The members then voted to amend the church's Articles of Incorporation to reflect the change, and filed it with the California Secretary of State. The lawsuit filed by the diocese to seize church property referred to their democratic action as a corporate "takeover" by the church leadership. Volunteer directors at the church were named in the lawsuit, along with the church itself.

It always comes down to the money/stuff. You might think that the diocese would be upset over wholesale "defections" of church membership...

3 posted on 08/17/2005 1:16:55 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: dukeman
The new Bishop is in Uganda?
4 posted on 08/17/2005 1:22:06 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: dukeman

Yes, very good. Interesting that they had to turn to Uganda to find an Episcopal diocese that stood firem on tradition.


5 posted on 08/17/2005 1:24:12 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: dukeman
A similar thing happened in my hometown (Roanoke, Virginia) a few years ago. The parish broke away from rhe Doicese because of the increasingly liberal Church heirarchy. They own their property, so the Diocese could do nothing.

Maybe if this continues, the Church leaders will come to their senses.

6 posted on 08/17/2005 1:25:42 PM PDT by DeeOhGee (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: dukeman

Under whose name is the property? For most denominations all properties are in the name of the denomination, not the local church/parish. If the deed is in the name of the local parish, the denomination has no case. If the property is in the name of the denomination, the ruling will be overturned. It has nothing to do with free speech rights and everything to do with who legally owns the property as far as I can see.


7 posted on 08/17/2005 1:26:48 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Mike Darancette
The new Bishop is in Uganda?

Yes. African bishops have been particularly strong in their rebuke of unbiblical practices in the mainline Episcopal Church. Africa and Latin America are on fire right now for the Lord. The flame is nearly out in secular Europe and it is dimmed in parts of North America, so these believers must turn to Africa. God is at work in this....

8 posted on 08/17/2005 1:31:31 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: ZGuy

The interesting thing to me is that this case was decided on free speech grounds rather than property law and/or the law of non-profit organizations. Seems like some creative advocacy by the parish's lawyers.


9 posted on 08/17/2005 1:33:31 PM PDT by dukeman
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Yes it is. It is about time churches stand against the apostates and satanists who control the denominational bureaucracies in far too many denominations.


10 posted on 08/17/2005 1:38:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: ZGuy
If the property is in the name of the denomination, the ruling will be overturned. It has nothing to do with free speech rights and everything to do with who legally owns the property as far as I can see.

They were arguing that the Diocese had control of the property. The parish did not leave the Church they just changed Diocese.

11 posted on 08/17/2005 1:42:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: sionnsar

You've gotta see this.


12 posted on 08/17/2005 1:43:17 PM PDT by kidd
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This will open the floodgates.


13 posted on 08/17/2005 1:45:04 PM PDT by vollmond (Careful with that axe, Eugene!)
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To: dukeman

I believe the Romans are importing African Priests to the US as well, though there is a fear that some are joining the priesthood for power and to escape poverty rather than from a true calling.


14 posted on 08/17/2005 1:47:49 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Could you double check that? The article states "One year ago today tomorrow, the church disassociated from the diocese and the Episcopal Church USA because of theological differences,"
15 posted on 08/17/2005 1:50:56 PM PDT by ZGuy
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Asian Presbyterians, mostly Koreans, are traveling to Europe as missionaries. Imagine that!


16 posted on 08/17/2005 1:51:30 PM PDT by dukeman
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You've gotta see this.

Thanks, kidd! There's a bit more information yet...

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17 posted on 08/17/2005 1:58:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity || Iran Azadi)
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It looks like you and your ping-mates might enjoy seeing how left-wingers select a "church".
18 posted on 08/17/2005 2:12:17 PM PDT by dukeman
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Related posts:

Episcopal Diocese of L. A. has self-inflicted egg on face
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1464328/posts


Court Dismisses Diocese of Los Angeles Lawsuit Against Saint James Parish
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1464008/posts


19 posted on 08/17/2005 2:20:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: johnb838

This has nothing to do with importing priests from Africa. The ECUSA has no trouble recruiting priests right here from MoveOn.org and GLSEN. Since the legacy Anglican Church in the US, the ECUSA has effectively left the Christian faith to move to some Zen-Wiccan hybrid with incense and vestments, faithful Anglicans are simply looking elsewhere in the Anglican communion oversight. Search on Peter Akinola to understand why Uganda.


20 posted on 08/17/2005 3:15:48 PM PDT by Huber (For a leftist to become open-minded, they must first come to know Christ)
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