[bluetone006]

"It's done all the time with fast reproducing critters. It's possible with larger creatures too, as long as you've got a few thousand years to wait."

Name a single study that has moved beyond variations in size, coloration or the like. Yes, with selective breeding, you can "create" (through the application of an external intelligence) difference "styles" of dogs. However, they are still dogs. All studies using fruit flies and the like have been even less successful. Not a single study eschewing specific external manipulation has seen a single positive mutation that was genetically transferred. If you had any concept of the complexity of the software that is DNA you wouldn't have made the statement you did.

Random chance made good sense in 1890. At this point it time it is a joke.

[narby]

If you had any concept of the complexity of the software that is DNA you wouldn't have made the statement you did.

I do have a concept. And evolution still occurs. Deal with it.

[Tequila25]

"Not a single study eschewing specific external manipulation has seen a single positive mutation that was genetically transferred."

Doesn't need to be shown. All that needs to be shown is that the new population can no longer breed with the original. Bingo, new species.

Unless you have a better definition of what a species is.