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To: Dimensio

The National SOCIALISTS determined that Jews, the sick, the elderly, the disabled, etc., weren't as "valuable" as the rest of society and exercised their "natural selection" to exterminate them.




Ah, one of the retreats for those without logical arguments against evolution: blame it for the worst acts of slaughter in human history, as though a description of what happens in biological systems is an implicit directive for bad behaviour.




Ah, you see this is where there is a serious philosophical difference, many religions believe that man is CREATED EQUAL (though he may occupy various stations in life, God is no "repecter of persons"), but natural selection gives the deranged like Hitler the internal excuse they need to engage in some of the worst atrocities known to the 20th Century.

One's world view influences their thinking and the acts they take. A world view of superiority led Hitler to slaughter millions.

So you suggest that this idea of "natural selection" is somehow only applicable to "biological systems," would one of those systems include humans? And if so, then how do you reconcile the apparent conflicts in social structures, awareness, sentience, etc...


574 posted on 08/17/2005 10:25:19 AM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: woodb01
Ah, you see this is where there is a serious philosophical difference, many religions believe that man is CREATED EQUAL

"Many" != "All". There have even been Christians who didn't believe that.

but natural selection gives the deranged like Hitler the internal excuse they need to engage in some of the worst atrocities known to the 20th Century.

Nonsense. The only people pushing this crap are those trying to justify genocide by any means necessary and those without a rational argument against evolution trying to create guilt by association. Nothing in natural selection says "Kill All Jews". The only people who make this inference -- whether they are arguing in favour of killing jews or arguing against evolution -- are morons.

One's world view influences their thinking and the acts they take. A world view of superiority led Hitler to slaughter millions.

And nothing in natural selection suggests that "Hitler" or anyone else was or is "superior".

So you suggest that this idea of "natural selection" is somehow only applicable to "biological systems,"

Natural selection is a description of things that happen in biological systems.

would one of those systems include humans?

Yes. That you think that this can be used to justify genocide only demonstrates that you have no concept of what natural selection actually is.

The organisms best able to reproduce will be the ones that have their heritable traits passed on to the next generation. Thats' all that natural selection is. It's a description for what happens. It is not a directive to make things happen, and as such it is not a justification for genocide or any other proactive approach to anything.

And if so, then how do you reconcile the apparent conflicts in social structures, awareness, sentience, etc...

What conflicts? Be specific.
598 posted on 08/17/2005 10:57:20 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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