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To: bobdsmith
So no it wasn't intelligent design. The end solution was not known, and in fact is not understood. How can an intelligent designer not understand their own design huh? This is exactly a design generated by an evolutionary process.

Sorry, no cigar. Nothing occured here that was outside of intelligent design. An intelligence created a piece of software. An intelligence set a goal. An intelligence determined how to differentiate results that moved closer to the goal, from results that did not. An intelligence invented the algorithyms necessary to achieve the desired results. An intelligence created the hardware that was necessary to make use of the intelligently designed software.

Nothing occured by chance. An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result. The result was either accepted or rejected according to the rules that the CREATOR DESIGNED! The outcome would have been EXACTLY the same if the designer manually acted on each result in the fashion in which his software was designed to react. The fact that his machine did it at great speed, and he didn't follow the steps, doesn't mean that the whole process was not conceived and directed by intelligent design. Try again :-)

423 posted on 08/16/2005 8:27:37 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings

" Nothing occured by chance. An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result. "

Um, you DO know what random means, rght?


425 posted on 08/16/2005 8:30:48 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: GSHastings
An intelligence direct the outcome of every random result.

Who made the "intelligence"???

435 posted on 08/16/2005 8:40:33 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: GSHastings
Nothing occured here that was outside of intelligent design. An intelligence created a piece of software. An intelligence set a goal. An intelligence determined how to differentiate results that moved closer to the goal, from results that did not. An intelligence invented the algorithyms necessary to achieve the desired results. An intelligence created the hardware that was necessary to make use of the intelligently designed software.

Yes an intelligent designer produced an evolutionary process which in turn produced a complex design that said intelligent designer could not understand the workings of.

You asked for an example of an evolutionary process creating a complex design. I gave you one. Now you are quibbling over the origin of that evolutionary process as if that even matters. It doesn't matter because regardless of the origin, it is still an evolutionary process.

Look at it from the point of view of nature - Even if a Creator built cells (the hardware), DNA (the software), laws of nature (the algorithm, fitness function, etc), in order that an evolutionary process upon life occured, that would still be an evolutionary process wouldn't it? Just because the evolutionary process is intelligently designed doesn't make it any less an evolutionary process. If apes turn into man that is still evolution is it not? Even if a God-Researcher type wrote nature to do it.

457 posted on 08/16/2005 9:15:30 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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