Posted on 08/16/2005 3:07:44 AM PDT by jsh3180
Posted on Tue, Aug. 16, 2005
PINK PISTOLS
GAY GUN OWNERS
MEMBERS OF NATIONWIDE ORGANIZATION PACK HEAT TO FIGHT HATE CRIMES
BY ASHLEY FANTZ
afantz@herald.com
Keith Jackson disappears into his Wilton Manors bedroom and returns with a taupe suede clutch. He unzips it carefully.
''I love this one, because the bullets just fly out and you don't have to reload,'' he said, ejecting a clip from a nickel-plated .45-caliber semiautomatic Smith & Wesson.
``And if some redneck decides he's going to harass or harm me, he'll be thinking twice about it pretty quickly.''
Raised in rural Pennsylvania, Jackson is an avid hunter who keeps a gun on his boat, in his car, and on his Harley-Davidson motorcycle. But he's allowed his membership to the National Rifle Association to lapse since he heard about the Pink Pistols.
In fact, Jackson wants to start a local chapter of the nationwide organization of gay gun owners who believe that packing heat reduces their chances of becoming hate-crime victims.
The Pink Pistols have more than 7,000 members in the United States and British Columbia, many of whom feel alienated from conservative gun rights organizations like the NRA.
The name was coined by a gay journalist in a Salon.com essay five years ago. There are other gun-owner' groups for minority populations whose members believe that the law fails to protect them from bigots: Jews for the Preservation of Firearms; the Second Amendment Sisters, which caters to women of all backgrounds; and the Tenth Cavalry Gun Club, named after the U.S. Army Civil War regiment of black soldiers.
''A lot of gay people want to feel protected, but when I first tell them about the Pistols, they laugh hysterically for five minutes,'' Jackson said. 'When I ask them, `Why haven't you considered getting a gun?' they just say, 'Well, because I'm gay!' ''
''It's a ridiculous stereotype,'' he said. ``That we're too queeny or that guns scare us. I don't have to be straight to have good aim.''
FIRST MEETING
Last week, Jackson hosted the group's first meeting at his home, drawing six people. The Pistols will gather in early September, he said, at the shooting range at Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World off Griffin Road.
Pink Pistols members don't have to register or pay fees. ''Some people don't want it out there that they're gay,'' said Jackson. ``Or, that they own firearms.''
Alan Kurland, Jackson's partner of more than a dozen years, has been open about his love of guns since his early 20s. Jackson bought the Fort Lauderdale hair stylist his first firearm, a .25-caliber Baretta.
Kurland has since traded up to a Smith & Wesson .357 magnum, a model light enough to wear on his ankle, even while snipping and teasing hair at his Victoria Park salon. He also keeps an automatic for extra firepower, just in case the place is robbed.
''I think I feel more afraid than Keith does about being targeted for being gay,'' he said. 'I'm not going to a gun range. There's this macho good ol' boy thing going on. I don't think most of my friends would feel comfortable.''
TARGET PRACTICE
Kurland sometimes practices at a cabin in rural Pennsylvania that Jackson's family owns.
Recalling a night when someone threw a bottle at his head a few minutes after he left a gay nightclub, Kurland says several of his friends have been harassed as well. His clients tell similar tales.
''It's a bigger fear than most people realize, especially in Wilton Manors. Where do you think people who want to enjoy a little gay-bashing go?'' he asked.
Hate crimes against homosexuals and transgendered people in Florida have increased steadily in recent years, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
FDLE statistics show that in 2003, 55 hate crimes were committed against homosexuals and transgendered people statewide. That's the largest proportion of hate crimes ever attributed to sexual orientation, as opposed to race, religion and other hate crime categories.
Kurland, who grew up in Pembroke Pines, says he is still haunted by the 1987 beating death of gay musician Leslie ''Les'' Wan outside the Copa Cabaret and Disco in Fort Lauderdale. David Schwartz of Sunrise went to prison for 10 years for the crime.
The case of Wyoming 21-year-old Matthew Shepard, who was beaten, tied to a fence post and left to die in 1998, has been a powerful Pistols recruiting tool.
''That frightened the hell out of everyone,'' said Gwen Patton, national spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania-based Pistols. 'It made a lot of people think, `Do I ever want to find myself alone without protection of any kind?' ''
Gun control advocates don't object to groups like the Pistols, as long as they emphasize gun safety over vigilantism.
''I'm not going to tell a group their fear isn't valid.'' But most people who own guns are more likely to shoot themselves than an attacker, said Casey Anderson, a spokesman for the Washington, D.C.-based Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.
Fort Lauderdale City Commissioner Dean Trantalis, who is gay, said he's not surprised that a group like the Pistols would form in South Florida.
''We live in a society where some people -- the Broward County School Board -- think it's acceptable to promote bigotry,'' said Trantalis, referring to recent anti-gay comments made by members of the schools diversity committee about an educational DVD featuring children's characters. ``Obviously, we're not as tolerant an area as some might think.''
While some Pistols chapters are social clubs, others are informational, teaching members how to store, use, and clean their firearms and about the laws governing self-defense. Others are political. In San Francisco, Pistols organize voter outreach and have recently been vocal opponents of the mayor's gun control initiatives.
In Salt Lake City, Utah, Pistols have taken to the streets to demand that the city step up its vigilance against hate crimes. An unarmed lesbian was murdered there this summer, although police have not said the crime was motivated by her sexual orientation.
SUPREME COURT
Nationally, they have joined Supreme Court cases defending Second Amendment rights.
Jackson said the local chapter will educate members on gun use and laws, including a new state law that will take effect this fall that allows anyone to open fire when they have a ''reasonable belief'' they are in danger.
''Hopefully, you never have to shoot anyone,'' said Jackson. ''We're not about violence or vigilantism. Gay people are constantly aware that they are extra vulnerable. So having something like this'' -- he fingers the Smith & Wesson -- ``is just a confidence booster.''
Shouldn't do that. Folks who belong to JPFO, GOA, CCRKB/SAF, and the Pink Pistols, should belong to as many other groups as they agree with or are interested in.
The Second Amendment is for all the people.
IIRC, some of the very early auto loading handguns were "charged" with a sort of clip. Don't know if the clip remained in the gun or not.
You're wrong.
Model 340
Caliber: .357 Magnum®/.38 S&W Special +Pv
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 1-7/8"
Front Sight: Pinned Black Serrated Ramp
Rear Sight: Fixed Notch
Firing System: N/A
Grip: Hogue Bantam
Trigger: .312" Smooth Target
Hammer: Internal
External Safety: N/A
Frame: Small - J Frame Rd
Finish: Matte Stainless/ Grey
Overall length: 6-5/16"
Material: Scandium Alloy Frame, Barrel Shroud and Yoke,
Titanium Cylinder, Stainless steel barrel liner
Weight Empty: 12 ounces
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Weight approximately doubles when fully loaded. A coworker has one. Firing it with .357 loads he describes as "bang .... ouch", :) He practices with .38 spl, but carries it with .357 JHP loads.
No, he's telling you not to move the body. That's evidence tampering. Wether you can shoot them or not depends on the laws in your local jurisdiction and the details of the situtation.
In Texas you can shoot 'em, under most circumstances. Even if they are merely trying to break in. You can even shoot 'em if they are running off with your audio system or computer. Althought the later course of action is not recommended due to possible (likely!) civil action.
Reminds me of a situation that occurred in my home town sometime not long after I left. An old gal, nickname "Bloody Mary", but really a nice old gal, if people left her alone, woke one night in her semi-rural farmhouse to find an intruder coming through a window. The drifter from out of town apparently thought the house, which did not have electricity, was unoccupied. He found out differently, when she blew his head clean off with a 12 gauge shotgun. No charges, although after that her relatives insisted she not live alone any longer, and truth be told the affair pretty much unhinged her. And that wasn't even in Texas!.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info. I never would have imagined a .357 magnum that small. Sweet.
They've been around for quite a while. One of the better general-purpose gun forums used to have a big pink pistols presence. They probably still do, but I don't know, I haven't spent much time there in the last few years.
http://www.thehighroad.org/
I'm glad you were able to check it out. I have a little prior knowledge on a Smith and Wesson "Bodyguard". It's small and with defensive loads has quite a bit of recoil. I took a video of my son as he fired and frame by frame his gun flipped up at almost a forty five degree angle. He didn't know it did that until he saw the video. I have no idea what the Scandium frames are like and I'm hesitant to find out.
I stopped posting over that after they had a fight with the dummy underground. There are a lot of gun owning dems posting there now.
Practice safe gunslinging. Wear protection...
IIRC, some of the very early auto loading handguns were "charged" with a sort of clip. Don't know if the clip remained in the gun or not.
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