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Flat-Screen TV Prices Finally Come Down
AP ^ | 08/15/05 | GREG SANDOVAL

Posted on 08/15/2005 11:02:09 AM PDT by nypokerface

SAN FRANCISCO - Prices for flat-panel televisions have finally begun to tumble — by as much as 35 percent in the past year — as soaring demand for the two leading flat-panel technologies, plasma and liquid crystal display, or LCD, attracts a host of new competitors.

Lesser-known brands, such as Westinghouse Electric Co., Regent USA's Maxent, Syntax Corp.'s Olevia and Norcent Micro Inc. are slashing prices to compete against more-established names like Sharp Corp. and Sony Corp., forcing them, in turn, to charge less.

Semiconductors and other TV components also are getting cheaper, and the industry continues to find ways to trim production costs.

Now, a 42-inch liquid crystal model retails for about $4,200 on average, and the same-sized high-definition plasma sells for around $2,900, said Riddhi Patel, senior analyst for iSuppli, a market research firm in El Segundo, Calif.

Still too expensive? Price-conscious consumers shouldn't worry, analysts say, as flat-panel prices have yet to bottom out.

Some major retail chains continue to charge a premium for plasma and liquid crystal sets, pocketing 25 percent profits on larger models, Patel said.

"There is plenty of room for retailers to squeeze more out of their profit margins and attract customers," she said.

Proof that flat-panel TVs is a boon for retailers can be found in their earnings statements. Best Buy Co. saw an 85 percent jump in first-quarter profits due in part to skyrocketing sales of flat-panel televisions, while struggling electronics retailer Circuit City Stores Inc. saw triple-digit increases.

Representatives for Best Buy, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Costco Wholesale Corp., did not respond to requests for comment, while Bill Cimino of Circuit City refused to discuss profit margins, though he did say more price reductions are expected.

The price war, meanwhile, is taking a toll on flat-panel manufacturers. Sony blamed increased competition from Asian manufacturers who produce cheaper goods, including flat-panels TVs, when it reduced its full-year forecast by 90 percent. Last month, Sony, Toshiba Corp., and Hitachi Ltd. reported quarterly losses.

Some manufacturers have agreed to share risk and expense. Hitachi and Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., the maker of Panasonic televisions, began jointly making LCD televisions in February, as did Sharp and Fujitsu Ltd.

Despite the competitive environment, the companies continue to invest heavily in flat panels knowing that once the market matures they stand to cash in.

About 20.8 million flat-panel TVs will be sold this year worldwide, almost double the 10.9 million units sold in 2004. Sales next year should rise 47 percent, iSuppli said.

Though CRTs have served consumers well for a half-century, flat panels are appealing because they take less space and can be hung on walls.

Misperception may also play a role.

When it comes to picture, most analysts say CRTs are just as good as flat panels, yet many consumers are under the assumption that flat panels are all high definition and thus offer better picture quality. In retail showrooms, flat panels typically display high-definition digital content, so they look superior to CRTs.

Consumers don't always know that some flat panels can't receive high definition, or that CRTs can be formatted to get such programming.

When it comes to performance among flat-panel makers, paying more doesn't necessarily mean a better picture, said Eric Haruki, an analyst for research firm IDC.

More than 90 percent of the world's LCD panels are supplied by five companies, so top-tier brands and generics often share the same components, according to Haruki.

"Some of these companies buy top-notch components from the big players and rebrand them," Haruki said. "The technology is pretty good across the board."

Greg Gudorf, Sony's vice president of television marketing, insists top-tier manufacturers have an expertise lesser-known brands can't match.

"What is their manufacturing expertise in processing video signals?" Gudorf asked. "That's where Sony's heritage comes in. We know how to make a picture look good."

But James Li, chief executive of Syntax, argues that heritage is meaningless when it comes to new technology.

"We all entered the LCD era on the same playing field," he said. "Everybody is working with the same technology. Consumers have already learned that the brand name is not the single most important factor in their purchase."

There is just as much debate over whether to buy now or wait until prices drop further.

Patel is in the market for a new television, but she is waiting until after holiday shopping peaks. She said retailers are apt to offer their best deals then.

Russ Johnston, senior vice president of marketing for Pioneer Electronics Inc., agrees the cost-conscious can wait.

But for those who want the best TV experience in time for the upcoming football season and baseball playoffs, there's no better time to buy.

"If you look at August through November, those are the best TV months," Johnston said. "Sports fans are going to invite people over and want to show off their new TV. They're done waiting."


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To: Rokke

LOL! Sure thing.


41 posted on 08/15/2005 11:24:53 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: devane617
I finally got it. It took 4 hours of tedious work. Symantec's instructions are full of dead ends and no prompts.
42 posted on 08/15/2005 11:25:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: TommyDale

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43 posted on 08/15/2005 11:25:25 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Work for the LORD, the pay isn't much, but his retirement plan is out of this world.)
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To: goldstategop

Just six yrs. old?

Wow! They're just getting broken in. LOL


44 posted on 08/15/2005 11:25:40 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: FMBass

Who needs TV shows? Bring on the HD video games!


45 posted on 08/15/2005 11:25:54 AM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: YaYa123
We even switched from DISH satellite to COMCAST Cable because cable offfered many more HD channels.

Yea, I like DISh and cannot get cable. I am impressed with some of the rear projection flat screen HDTV LCD's. I think Sony;'s is in the low 2,000's now.

46 posted on 08/15/2005 11:26:26 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Beelzebubba
Most people will pay extra for white glove service. A technician will set it up at home to the customer's preferences. After that, its human nature to get used to the way it looks once its tuned to one's liking. Once flat-screen prices drop to rock bottom, its listed premium services like this that the stores will look to make up the difference.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
47 posted on 08/15/2005 11:26:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Larry Lucido
The old DuMont still works fine. Just needs a new vacuum tube.

Hey. Did someone say 'tube'?

48 posted on 08/15/2005 11:26:55 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: newgeezer
So, is it true plasma TVs only last a couple years (or, at least, very few hours when compared to CRTs and/or LCDs)?

All of the salesmen I talked to at high-end stores said that the picture on the flat-screen plasmas is still not as good as the LCD.

We ended up getting the Sony Grand WEGA 60" Widescreen Digital-Cable-Ready Rear-Projection LCD HDTV for around $3800. A little pricey, granted, but you can't beat the picture, IMO.

49 posted on 08/15/2005 11:27:21 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Skooz
"Just in time to watch the Chiefs, huh? :0)"

It wouldn't be to watch the Royals.........
50 posted on 08/15/2005 11:28:11 AM PDT by jmq
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I couldn't remove corrupt Norton from the Add/Control panel. Fortunately, Symantec provided a free tool that lets you uninstall Norton with a one button click. The strange thing is if you reinstall it, you don't have to download everything all over again. Apparently, the uninstall tool preserves your DAT files.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
51 posted on 08/15/2005 11:29:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nypokerface

Back in the real world, "regular" TVs are dirt cheap, like $200 for a 27" screen.


52 posted on 08/15/2005 11:32:13 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: newgeezer
"So, is it true plasma TVs only last a couple years (or, at least, very few hours when compared to CRTs and/or LCDs)?"

Plasmas are susceptible to burn in and fading. If you're careful about burn in and don't mind the brightness fading somewhat it'll likely last you several years.

The good news is that even if you buy a new plasma and it becomes unwatchable after 3 years or so you can probably replace it with a plasma with 50%+ more screen area and a longer lifespan for half the price.
53 posted on 08/15/2005 11:34:27 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: goldstategop

I don't think that's Murphy's Law, but the economic law of Capitalism.


54 posted on 08/15/2005 11:35:06 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: nypokerface

I just bought a 22 inch HDTV LCD for my bedroom and I looked at Sony, Toshiba, Zentih, JVC, etc and ended up with a Samsung from the evil Sam's Club for $799. Samsung used to be considered "cheap" electornics as far as quality, but this set had the best picture and sound of the brands listed about. Samsung has really improved it's quality. Now if we could get more HDTV programing , that would be great.


55 posted on 08/15/2005 11:35:29 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
"Whenever I check out the HDTVs at Circuit City or Best Buy, I am always stunned at how random the picture quality is from one model to the next. And there is little correlation between price/brand name and picture quality."

This probably has more to do with the failure of the Circuit City and Best Buy employees to set things up properly than anything else.
56 posted on 08/15/2005 11:38:18 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: TommyDale

"""Of course, I found it online for around $2500 shipped."""

Visiting the new factory outlets in Washington State, the Seattle Factory Outlets, we happened upon a Sony store. This wetted our appetite for a brand spanking new flat panel TV set, but upon finding out that ALL the stuff there was marked "REFURBISHED" we gave up on the idea.

Is it true that most electronics sold online come with a sticker "RE-REFURBISHED"?


57 posted on 08/15/2005 11:40:22 AM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: nypokerface

Ping to myself for browsing later - my TV just fried itself last night.


58 posted on 08/15/2005 11:41:35 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: All
General tip to anyone buying a big-screen TV -- invest an extra $15 or so to get a DVD with commercial-grade test patterns (like "Sound and Vision Home Theater Tune-Up") so you can calibrate your picture to match the room you put it in. By default, most TVs are shipped with settings that look good in a brightly-lit showroom, but may not look good in your place.

The particular DVD I mentioned goes through a lot of general set-up stuff, but the real reason to get it are the test-patterns (and instructions) that allow you to set the brightness, sharpness, contrast, tint, etc. for your room. It also has test tones for stereo system setup.

59 posted on 08/15/2005 11:42:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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To: The South Texan

Circuit City has a really nice Samsung "thin" model (it uses a tube, but it's one-third thinner than normal tubes) on sale this week.


60 posted on 08/15/2005 11:49:47 AM PDT by LanPB01
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