Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14

Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

[juzcuz]

So True...


They have all implicated themselves... Where's smoke is fire.. The belt in the picture, the belt recovered .. Now a shoe? Hope it all leads to clear answers for the grieving parents.

[cajungirl]

Beats me. I think they are all whackjobs, incestuous island where everyone is either someone's nephew, lawyer, political opponent, business partner, whatever.

I never saw so many connections and I am from Louisiana where everyone is related, really.

[cajungirl]

I think the belt is not important. I no longer believe in these tips that lead to wild goose chases.

They will find out who did this when someone talks.

Good nite all.

[shebacal]

I just saw that too.....very chilling......joran was REALLY into the role......that face was totally possessed

I've seen two of these chilling pictures of Joran holding a belt around a smaller boy's neck, one picture shows the boy wearing a hat, in the other picture the same boy is not wearing a hat. In both pictures, the background seems to be a big window with a drape on the right side.

In a different picture of Joran and what looks like the same boy, wearing the identical hat, the background looks like a dark, rocky wall, with several lights set out on the rocks. The other boy is making that gang sign again.

Their expressions seem so intense and so weird. Maybe they are acting out Dungeons and Dragons.

In a lot of Joran's pictures his eyes seem absolutely dead. I think he is the devil's spawn.

[Tarheel]

I think Joran is crazy, crazier than sociopathic. But that is just me, nobody else thinks that.

I think you are right. This guy preys on women, has been caught in multiple lies, seems to have a gambling addiction and does more drinking than the normal 17 y/o male. Add to that he is relatively good looking, athletic and has limited/ or no boundaries set by his parents. No this guy is trouble from the get-go.

Unfortunately I think he is going to walk because his daddy helped him cover up the crime. Joran will get caught some day and punished but not before he does more damage.

It is time for AVDS to take a good hard look at both her husband and son and decide if she really believes these two cretins. If not, perhaps she should cut her losses before she ends up being hurt more. If she knows anything about this it is time for her to step up, tell what she knows and put the two cretins to shame.

[juzcuz]

I am from Louisiana where everyone is related, really.
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Me Too..

[justche]

What was the name of his father who killed himself and had the VW dealership? Was there ever an article or history of this suicide located?

Ok, I have seen about Lorenzo's father killing himself as long as I've followed the thread, but tonight is the first time it clicked..."oh killing oneself Aruba style, is not the same as other places." Has it been the idea all along he didn't really commit suicide, and I'm just catching on?

[stlnative]

I think they are all whackjobs, incestuous island where everyone is either someone's nephew, lawyer, political opponent, business partner, whatever.

It sounds like you are talking about the small IL town I moved to in 1994. - I cannot wait until we move out of here!

[Howlin]

A shoe was recovered?

I swear, I cannot wait for my stepdaughter to have this baby so I can not be the babysitter-in-residence and catch up on all this! (And, no, I'm really not complaining, but it's killing my Freeping time!)

[Canadian Outrage]

Robert Chambers and Jennifer Levin!!

[Canadian Outrage]

Tito and Reuben must have switched shirts. Reuben T. had a purple shirt on the other night!! This island is a snakepit for sure. It convinces me more and more that the PRESSURE must be maintained. Aruba can't take this on a long extended basis. Sooner or later it is going to affect them.

[TexKat]

Was it Beth earlier this week that said she had just recently found out that Paulus Van der Sloot is/was land manager. Well looky here who PVDS would have at least consulted with at times.

Law: Land Use and Zoning - Croes Wever Tchong Oranjestad, Aruba

Arulex Building, Punta Brabo
Oranjestad
Aruba

Contact: Mr. Hendrik Croes
Tel: 297 5822138
Fax: 297 5832363

[juzcuz]

Oh, I thought you were the expecting Mom... LOL..

Congrats to you and yours.

[Canadian Outrage]

Not familiar reminds me very much of Van der Stratens "I don't recognize that"!! "I don't recognize that" .......!! bullpucky!!

[TexKat]

A shoe was recovered?

No, nothing has been recovered. If it has been they have not told/reported it. You really have not missed too much of anything except if you missed Jr. and his landfill sighting of Natalee's body being deposited there.

[juzcuz]

Yes, things were recovered from the lighthouse area, But not yet pinned to anyone. According to the news I heard, there were a belt and a shoe.

[Canadian Outrage]

I don't think we know anything for sure Howlin except for the fact that the Island of Aruba as well as surrounding Islands (Dutch Antilles) REEK with corruption!!

[Dolphy]

And, no, I'm really not complaining, but it's killing my Freeping time

And I'm missing your pings, Howlin :)

As for this case, I am whipped from theory to theory because there are so few facts. At the end of the day you have to think that all of the forces that are present (Dutch, Aruban, underworld, etc.) have more to lose than gain if the truth comes out. How a couple of teenage and a 21 year old suspects can stir up all of this or be so entwined is what's nuts.

[Canadian Outrage]

AVDS appears to me to be "selectively" clueless!!

[Dolphy]

Thanks for the link, I've read that before. This is just a maze of directions and angles, all that seem like insane speculation except when you consider the insanity of what has gone on in this investigation.