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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; betty boop
Thank you both for your replies! Your frankness is much appreciated, PatrickHenry!

For anyone interested in more on the subject:

Seems to me that some may be valuing Grandpierre’s insights as though he were an intelligent design theorist or a Christian creationist. He is neither, but it should make no difference if he were.

From a temporal perspective (boundaryless-ness) – Grandpierre’s musings on the chain are akin to fractals - which we often associate with Mandelbrot sets and have recently discussed wrt cell intelligence.

Please check out the following webpage which explains the infinite detail in a Mandelbrot set from an artist’s point of view. Essentially, the observable finite is merely a “morsel” of the potential infinity in the fractal.

The void, on the other hand, is none of this. Conceptually, one might think of it as the background in which the Mandelbrot set materializes or becomes observable. But that too is an impoverished view in that the void itself is not merely empty space or a vacuum – indeed, the void has no space, no time, no energy, no matter, no geometry, no information, no mathematics, no thing and especially no physical causality. It is the context of everything which is possible.

Grandpierre put it this way:

The realm of the Finite cannot exist without the realm of Infinity, since the Finite can change only by its connection with Infinity, and it can maintain itself only by continuously changing.”

I would put it somewhat differently:

What we perceive as finite is actually but a segment of a potentially endless chain of the same phenomenon. Even so, no temporal phenomenon (whether finite or without boundary) can exist or evolve except in the void.

Or to recast my phrasing using Grandpierre’s terminology:

What we perceive as Existence is actually but a morsel of a potentially endless chain of the same phenomenon. Even so, no Existence can come to be outside the context of Non-Existence – which accommodates all potential possibilities.


269 posted on 08/16/2005 7:03:13 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Still in Dave Barry mode, another episode of "Look Out! Here Comes Mr. Language-Enforcement Person!"

... accommodates all potential possibilities.

Redundant. I picked on Grandpierre a bit for this usage. Potentially, it may be possible that English may not be his first language. There is no need to accomodate anything beyond real possibilities. While it may be possible that a thing could only potentially be possible, the distinction seems overly nuanced.

271 posted on 08/16/2005 7:18:31 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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