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To: Ready2go
You might want to read the first link I posted above.

There are numerous reports of bad NDE trips involving tortures by elves, giants, demons, etc. Some parapsychologists take these good and bad NDE trips as evidence of heaven and hell. They believe that some souls actually leave their bodies and go to the other world for a time before returning to their bodies. If so, then what is one to conclude from the fact that most people near death do not experience either the heavenly or the diabolical? Is that fact good evidence that there is no afterlife or that most people end up in some sort of limbo? Such reasoning is on par with supposing that dreams in which one appears to oneself to be outside of one’s bed are to be taken as evidence of the soul or mind actually leaving the body during sleep, as some New Age Gnostics believe.

146 posted on 08/12/2005 3:10:03 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Ready2go

Actually, this part of the link doesn't address the results of the NDE, so I retract my comment.


149 posted on 08/12/2005 3:25:39 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Howdy again Gumlegs;

Since I don't know your age, I don't know if you were around when family members took care of their dying loved one's at home, instead of sending them to the hospital or hospice.

The old-timers would always tell about Mom (or whoever)being on her deathbed talking with a dead loved one and even being surprised that Aunt Sally (or whoever) was with the dead loved one. When the family was unaware of that other person dying.

Mom would be talking and reaching her arms up...ready to go home.

I think it's very possible that nowdays most folks are drugged up when their Doctors know they're at the verge of dying and that's why we don't hear many stories today.

And I sure don't believe what the New Agers believe.

There is a Heaven and a Hell...it's up to each one of us to decide where we want to live forever.

The Resurrection Body

35 But someone may ask, “How will the dead be raised? What kind of bodies will they have?”

36 What a foolish question! When you put a seed into the ground, it doesn’t grow into a plant unless it dies first.

37 And what you put in the ground is not the plant that will grow, but only a dry little seed of wheat or whatever it is you are planting.

38 Then God gives it a new body—just the kind he wants it to have. A different kind of plant grows from each kind of seed.

39 And just as there are different kinds of seeds and plants, so also there are different kinds of flesh—whether of humans, animals, birds, or fish.

40 There are bodies in the heavens, and there are bodies on earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the beauty of the earthly bodies.

41 The sun has one kind of glory, while the moon and stars each have another kind. And even the stars differ from each other in their beauty and brightness.

42 It is the same way for the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies, which die and decay, will be different when they are resurrected, for they will never die.

43 Our bodies now disappoint us, but when they are raised, they will be full of glory. They are weak now, but when they are raised, they will be full of power.

44 They are natural human bodies now, but when they are raised, they will be spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, so also there are spiritual bodies.

45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person. But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit.

46 What came first was the natural body, then the spiritual body comes later.

47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.

48 Every human being has an earthly body just like Adam’s, but our heavenly bodies will be just like Christ’s.

49 Just as we are now like Adam, the man of the earth, so we will someday be like Christ, the man from heaven.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These perishable bodies of ours are not able to live forever.

51 But let me tell you a wonderful secret God has revealed to us. Not all of us will die, but we will all be transformed.

52 It will happen in a moment, in the blinking of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, the Christians who have died will be raised with transformed bodies. And then we who are living will be transformed so that we will never die.

53 For our perishable earthly bodies must be transformed into heavenly bodies that will never die.

54 When this happens—when our perishable earthly bodies have been transformed into heavenly bodies that will never die—then at last the Scriptures will come true:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?

56 For sin is the sting that results in death, and the law gives sin its power.

57 How we thank God, who gives us victory over sin and death through Jesus Christ our Lord!


179 posted on 08/12/2005 10:13:11 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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