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The New GOP Betrays America
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, Aug. 11, 2005 | Diane Alden

Posted on 08/10/2005 8:43:22 PM PDT by Psion

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To: bayourod
"And both of them served as Reagan's Chief of Staff."

Ironic, isn't it?
241 posted on 08/11/2005 11:50:34 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: Sam the Sham

You imply that there's a GOP candidate who has the courage to ignore the special interests of the GOP--

Aside from Ron Paul, who is not in Cali, any thoughts?

By the way, another but much shorter item on 'limited gummint' is posted on today's Southern Appeal blog, and Jewish World Review ran an editorial by Victor D Hanson on the helots/guest worker controversy.

THIS is NOT a good day for the BushBot/Globaloney crowd.


242 posted on 08/11/2005 11:52:52 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: antisocial

Spoken like a true Socialist liberal!

+____I just know the difference between libetarianism and conservatism....and socialists want high taxes and Bush wants lower taxes..so you're way off base.


243 posted on 08/11/2005 11:53:10 AM PDT by Bushbacker (f----u)
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To: RFT1

And I can still recite half of those verses in Latin...!


244 posted on 08/11/2005 11:54:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: FBD

Thanks for reminding me why I left the Republican party a month ago.

____Which ineffectual losing party do you vote for now?


245 posted on 08/11/2005 11:55:22 AM PDT by Bushbacker (f----u)
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To: bayourod
They aren't affected at all by men who just come here to earn money to support their families and return to Mexico.

No one is "cutting in line" or in any other way disadvantaging anyone else. The fact that it takes up to 18 years for a citizen to get his brother a permanent residency visa has nothing whatsoever to do with the migrants who come here each year to pick crops and then go back home.

So all of the 12-15 million illegal alien lawbreakers who are currently in the United States are planning to return to their home countries after they've saved up a little money from their jobs here? Your comments get weirder and weirder with each passing day.

246 posted on 08/11/2005 11:57:23 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod
"Just a footnote. I believe that this has been published. In the latter days of the Reagan administration it was G.W. Bush who made the decision, and with Nancy's permission marched into Howard Baker's office and fired him."

I had not heard that, IIRC Howard Baker was brought on in the wake of the Iran-Contra affair, I think Reagan's daughter also came aboard. I do recall that treasury secretary Donald Regan and James Baker traded positions, and that Donald Regan was fired as Chief of Staff at the behest of Nancy Reagan. He wrote some sort of tell all book and revealed that she used astrologers.
247 posted on 08/11/2005 12:06:27 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: Sun
This thing about supplements was discussed more than ten years ago by Chuck Harder on his radio show. He knew then that international powers were creeping into our system and that the WTO was a bad thing.

The question I would ask is, why would the GOP seem eager to cozy up to the powers behind a one world government? The next question is, when is the WTO, or other government without a nation, going to be in charge of interpreting our second amendment, ie, the right to bear arms? When will gun confiscation begin?
248 posted on 08/11/2005 12:12:15 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Psion
The author makes some excellent points. I have been a Republican and a conservative all my adult life. Republicans through the years have disappointed conservatives in a myriad of ways. It's nothing new.

If someone devised a quick way to build a viable third party that was conservative, I would be there. Thus far, no one has come up with it.

Therefore, the best way to advance conservativism is to keep striving to elect more conservative Republican candidates like the ones the author eludes to below:

"Meantime, 27 core constitutional conservatives voted against CAFTA."

That's the way I saw it when I first got on this forum 7 years ago (after having considered the problem for about 20 years), and that's the way I see it today.

Additionally, I want to see what happens in the future if and when we get two or more truly conservative nominees on the Supreme Court.

If it proves to be the same old, same old, I will decide what to do at that time.

The way I see it now, if we have gotten nothing for all our efforts with the Republican Party (and I don't believe that is quite the case), we will get even less with a third party. If you think it's hopeless now, wait 'til then.

I do however, understand the shortcomings of the Republican Party and always have. They haven't "fooled" me.

249 posted on 08/11/2005 12:18:20 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Member since December 1998)
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To: Final Authority
The question I would ask is, why would the GOP seem eager to cozy up to the powers behind a one world government?

Look to the G8. Almost all trade decisions and many other decisions are floated there before going to the WTO. If you are a public official that gets asked to a G8 meeting, you are among the most powerful and moneyed people in the world. Many Republicans and Democrats are using their public office to gain access to this level, and if they support the G8/WTO agenda they are almost certain to get very lucrative work when they are no longer in office.

Because of public/private partnerships, many businessmen in the GOP are getting very favorable global deals through the G8 and WTO. Their allegiance is NOT to this country.
250 posted on 08/11/2005 12:19:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: antisocial
"And if the CFR has such little power how come they always get what they want even when it is so demonstrably against the will of the American people?"

There is a lot of truth to what you say. I read a book published in 1964 by the CFR about the Panama Canal that advocated giving the canal to Panama. Public opinion was strongly against it, but the will of the CFR prevailed.

The doctrine of containment was first published in the CFR quarterly "Foreign Affairs" in July of 1947 in an article titled "The Sources of Soviet Conduct," written by George Kennan using "X" as his nom de plume.
251 posted on 08/11/2005 12:22:21 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: judgeandjury
So all of the 12-15 million illegal alien lawbreakers who are currently in the United States are planning to return to their home countries after they've saved up a little money from their jobs here?

Well shut my mouth! I have been saying this for years.

It is not just the jobs that "We Americans" wont do as in "crop pickers", they are in every aspect of construction! From plumbing, electrical, roofing, carpenter, painting, concrete work, there is no field that I (for over 25 years) haven't seen them take over. So saying that they are doing the jobs that "We Americans" wont do is a FALSE statement!...: ) <<< me

252 posted on 08/11/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuhrer... [hummmm...]))
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Did you see my post #89? It's got all the info you need on the bayourod troll. :)

Excellent post, Stellar. Thanks.


253 posted on 08/11/2005 12:25:32 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: Final Authority

About those vitamins that will soon be labeled as precription drugs (and a woman in France is serving 3 years for vitamin C right now!).


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1442409/posts

codex alimentarius will soon force you to pay $200 for that $5.00 bottle of 1-A-Day.


254 posted on 08/11/2005 12:43:14 PM PDT by Psion ("He who dares not offend cannot be honest." Thomas Paine)
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To: bayourod
Have you ever talked with someone who has spent any time with G.W. and discussed Reagan with him? I have.

On this issue, it wouldn't matter to me if you were Ron Jr. himself.

255 posted on 08/11/2005 12:43:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: taxed2death
" I might borrow that and say, I'm Conservative and Pro American."

In the book "Wedemeyer Reports" the author goes into depth about American grand strategy in WW2. The biggest fault he identified was that we knew what we were fighting against, but not what we fought for. As a result our strategic position at the end of the war was worse than before it began, e.g. the USSR was more in position to consolidate power over Eurasia than Germany and Japan had been.

Stalin knew what he was for, we only knew we were against fascism. Eisenhower used to ask his troops what we were fighting for, and was always dismayed that so few had any idea. The fruits of victory were not what would have been hoped for after 400,000 brave men gave their lives for victory as the iron curtain came down across the face of Europe.

The sacrifice of the many was negated by the treachery of a few, e.g. Alger Hiss, Harry Hopkins and Harry Dexter White. I think the modern history of the Republican party has a similar theme, millions of good people who see their efforts achieve nothing due to the treachery of a few establishment RINO's at the top.
256 posted on 08/11/2005 12:47:32 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: Mase
Americanism is a question of principle, of purpose, of idealism, or character; it is not a matter of birthplace or creed or line of descent. – Theodore Roosevelt, speech at Washington, DC (1909)

I like it.

BTW would Teddy think its OK to measure someone's Americanism by their perspective on the burning issues of the day?

257 posted on 08/11/2005 12:51:32 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Psion


Yup. Diane nails it.

258 posted on 08/11/2005 12:55:46 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Dat Mon
"Its ironic...but I think that 'Christian compassion' is one of the talking points / emotional appeals that will be used to hold part of the Republican base together in this march towards the late Robert Bartley inspired open / borderless society."

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Ironic?

Q: What BIG promise did President Bush make to Christians is they would reelect him?

259 posted on 08/11/2005 1:01:57 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Paul Ross

Yes, Diane certainly has nailed it....and she promises more of the same, that was merely the first part of the article.

More information here;

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/8/10/201400.shtml


260 posted on 08/11/2005 1:06:58 PM PDT by Psion ("He who dares not offend cannot be honest." Thomas Paine)
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