[ohioWfan]

Poverty is not equivalent with morality. Many people are poor, and it has nothing one way or another to do with morality. (That's kind of a Marxist concept, actually, isn't it?).

As for lynching and racism, I agree that this society is now better than it was in those areas (I didn't deny that there had been any improvement), though the racism in the human hearts of many remains.

But if you compare the relative downward spiral of the value of human life that allows the killing of millions of babies, lack of regard for sexual morality, the sanctity of marriage (a pillar in a civilized society), rampant abuse of children, and respect for right and wrong (you should be able to observe that clearly at the university level), our overall society has radically declined.

And actually, the truth of abortion is, that it is extremely racist, and is wiping out millions of young black babies (check out the statistics some day). Far more than were murdered by lynchings.

[Right Wing Professor]

But if you compare the relative downward spiral of the value of human life that allows the killing of millions of babies, lack of regard for sexual morality, the sanctity of marriage (a pillar in a civilized society), rampant abuse of children, and respect for right and wrong (you should be able to observe that clearly at the university level), our overall society has radically declined.

I'm not pro-abortion; but the numbers of abortions have declined quite a lot recently. I don't think child abuse rates have gone up; I see no evidence there is any less respect for right and wrong around here; our society is more affluent and better educated that it's ever been; and murder, rape and other violent crime rates have been declining for years. So, no, I don't see it.

But in any case, I'm going to be off FR for a few days; so this seems to be a good place to terminate the discussion. Have a good week!