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Men do have trouble hearing women, scientists find
Yahoo ^ | August 7, 2005 | Agence France Presse

Posted on 08/07/2005 8:45:12 AM PDT by Loyalist

LONDON (AFP) - Men who are accused of never listening by women now have an excuse -- women's voices are more difficult for men to listen to than other men's, a report said.

The Daily Mail, quoting findings published in the specialist magazine NeuroImage, said researchers at Sheffield university in northern England discovered startling differences in the way the brain responds to male and female sounds.

Men deciphered female voices using the auditory part of the brain that processes music, while male voices engaged a simpler mechanism, it said.

The Mail quoted researcher Michael Hunter as saying, "The female voice is actually more complex than the male voice, due to differences in the size and shape of the vocal cords and larynx between men and women, and also due to women having greater natural 'melody' in their voices.

"This causes a more complex range of sound frequencies than in a male voice."

The findings may help explain why people suffering hallucinations usually hear male voices, the report added, as the brain may find it much harder to conjure up a false female voice accurately than a false male voice.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: genderwars; hearing; men; sexdifferences; women; womenrule; zaq
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To: SusanD

They forgot to add the second part of the article..."And women lack a sense of humor."


101 posted on 08/09/2005 6:00:45 AM PDT by Dolphan
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To: RipSawyer

LOL! A response reserved for the extremely suicidal.


102 posted on 08/09/2005 6:03:38 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Respecting liberal democrats requires contempt for every thing respectable.)
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To: Buckhead
"...women's voices are pitched so that men can easily tune them out, and that the purpose of being able to tune them out is to keep the nattering from driving you mad.
Now I got proof!

Now you got proof what ya going to do with it?

103 posted on 08/09/2005 6:03:59 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Para-Ord.45

At least use such phrases as:

"It sounds like you feel [insert an emotional/ FEELING word] about the way she treated you."

"I think I'd feel _____________ in that situation."

"I feel angry when you persistently put my magazines and remote where I can't find them even after 15 minutes of searching."

"I feel very frustrated when I can't seem to make an emotional connection with you no matter how hard I try and listen and no matter how much I try to show that I care about your thoughts and feelings."

For men to use true feeling words in fitting ways can help tons with most women most of the time.


104 posted on 08/09/2005 6:04:11 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: balrog666

If said voice is not in the seductress tonal ranges, they probably missed it. I bet the recordings are in that tonal range.


105 posted on 08/09/2005 6:05:39 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: Quix
The 'damned-if-he-does-AND-damned-if-he-doesn't' phenomenon is PAINFULLY AND INFURIATINGLY COMMON in far too many male/female relationships being too often set up by the female...

A man either chooses to put up with that right at the beginning, or he stops it. Men who haven't had much success with women tend to be scared to death early in relationships that if they say just one thing wrong they will lose her, and never find anyone else. So they give away all of their power to the woman (which deep down she really hates - she wants him to lead) and accept that kind of bad behavior from her as "just the way women are...just what marriage is all about." Relationships sometimes turn into marriages and last for decades in this dysfunctional mode, with the proverbial "henpecked husband" living a life of continous misery as he tries ever harder to please, and his wife finds herself nearly as unhappy, because he keeps failing to stand up to her. Divorce is almost inevitable, and the man is left saying, "I can't understand it - I did everything she wanted!"

Bud, that was the whole problem. ;)

106 posted on 08/09/2005 6:05:57 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Democracy...will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel." -- John Adams)
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To: marsh2

Such a wise response you offer.


107 posted on 08/09/2005 6:06:19 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I thoroughly agree. Very well put. Thx.


108 posted on 08/09/2005 6:14:54 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: Quix

just surprised i didn't get flamed for it because i was series... 8^)


109 posted on 08/09/2005 7:50:15 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Loyalist

funny thing is, emergency warnings(PULL UP, etc.) on aircraft are all female voices...

is it because there are usually no female voices in the background so it cuts through the clutter???

if so, what about female pilots??? do they respond to female warnings the same way or do they need male voices to get their attention???


110 posted on 08/09/2005 7:58:24 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Quix; All
ALL MEN,

All you men are right. It's a conspiracy we women cooked up since the beginning of time. When a girl baby is born, we women telepathically send a message to the newborn how to manipulate and control the other sex on the planet. I thought everyone knew that.

On the other hand, lots of women kind of get sadistic pleasure at seeing the man go through wrenching gyrations of jumping relentlessly trying to solve mission after mission impossible.

I don't include all women in that, and I don't include all men in the knuckle dragging/bare foot and pregnant/get in the kitchen and rattle the pots and pans category.

Both sexes have to work at marriage to make it work. If only one spouse is rowing the boat...the boat will go in a circle.

111 posted on 08/09/2005 8:10:42 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Quix
If said voice is not in the seductress tonal ranges, they probably missed it. I bet the recordings are in that tonal range.

It is and they can still miss it.

112 posted on 08/09/2005 8:31:59 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Chode

Yeah. Such threads seem to be flaming invitations for flaming! LOL.


113 posted on 08/09/2005 9:50:53 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: pbrown

Plenty true.

I try to limit my use of "all" in such discussions, too.

Perhaps I got sloppy.


114 posted on 08/09/2005 9:52:23 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: Loyalist

Huh?


115 posted on 08/09/2005 9:52:55 AM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I CAN Face Tomorrow)
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To: balrog666

The research Bell Telephone did ages ago resulting in the now decesed gal doing the recordings was solid research.

A key reason she was attractive to listen to--particularly for men--was the somewhat sexy quality yet strong quality to her voice.

That was probably one of the reason she did such work for decades.


116 posted on 08/09/2005 9:54:19 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: playball0

Could be - so men can hear Him easier.


117 posted on 08/09/2005 9:55:10 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: derllak
Men seem to never have evolved from the caveman stage where they use grunting noises and sound effects to communicate with each other. Women are light years ahead of them!

Men get together at their favorite watering hole and discuss the week’s events. A few grunts, a few sound effects and a minimum use of words and everyone is caught up on what’s been happening with everyone.
Women get together, and after hours of conversation and thousands of words they still have to call each other on the phone later to finish catching up.

Women are light years ahead? Sounds like men are far more efficient at communicating.

118 posted on 08/09/2005 10:00:30 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Trteamer
When she asks "Do I look fat?", answer with "Fat?" She will keep on talking but can't acuse you of not listening.

My late wife never asked that question, but our daughter continually asked “Does this make me look fat?
I started to answer with “It’s not the clothes that make you look fat”. It only took a couple days for her to quit asking me that question.
119 posted on 08/09/2005 10:07:08 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Kath
"And who conducted this study and came up with this result, MEN?????"

what?

120 posted on 08/09/2005 10:14:28 AM PDT by Hatteras
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