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To: R. Scott
""What Are The Darwinists Afraid Of? --- Could it be the teaching of religion in the government schools?"

No - because the religion of Scientism is already being taught in science/biology classes and they don't want any competition.

"For the nontheist, evolution is the only game in town; it is an essential part of any reasonably complete nontheistic way of thinking; hence the devotion to it, the suggestions that it shouldn't be discussed in public, and the venom, the theological odium with which dissent is greeted." ...

"..I take the evidence for an old earth to be strong and the warrant for the view that the Lord teaches that the earth is young to be relatively weak. .. ...how can Christian intellectuals-scientists, philosophers, historians, literary and art critics, Christian thinkers of every sort.... best serve the Christian community... One thing our experts can do for us is help us avoid rejecting evolution for stupid reasons. The early literature of Creation -Science, so called, is littered with arguments of that eminently rejectable sort.

"We shouldn't reject contemporary science unless we have to and we shouldn't reject it for the wrong reasons. It is good thing for our scientists to point out some of these wrong reasons."

"..I can properly correct my view as to what reason teaches by appealing to my understanding of Scripture; and I can properly correct my understanding of Scripture by appealing to the teachings of reason.

"It is of the first importance, however, that we correctly identify the relevant teachings of reason.

"Here I want to turn directly to the present problem, the apparent disparity between what Scripture and science teach us about the origin and development of life." ~ Alvin Plantinga -University of Notre Dame. Read complete commentary

"Could it be the return to teaching of a flat Earth, a Table of elements containing only earth, air, fire and water? Could it be a return to teaching that all illness is caused by possession by evil spirits – or the four humors as an acceptable “scientific approach” to medicine?"

Now you're sounding quite frantic and irrational [like this guy here], but I understand - Darwinism / materialism is the "only game in town" left to those who deliberately reject what they already know

The religious worldview of Darwinists like Dawkins, Spieth, Ruse, Ayala, Gould, et.al., is inherently irrational.

Given the view they hold that they are mere accidents of the evolutionary process, they can't even be 100% sure that their thoughts are valid - yet, in their cognitive dissonance, they make "just so" statements.

Gould, for instance, said: "If you replayed evolution on this planet, the chances of getting any species as smart as humans­ smart enough to reflect on itself ­are "extremely small." .. "we are, whatever our glories and accomplishments, a momentary cosmic accident that would never arise again if the tree of life could be replanted from seed and regrown under similar conditions." To insist otherwise, to see evolution as a natural progression toward intelligent forms of life, is to indulge a "delusion" grounded in "human arrogance" and desperate "hope."

Right thinking (small "o" orthodox) Christians begin with the warranted (because it's rational) presupposition that God is. He has spoken; He has created the universe; He has spoken it into existence. ... any other proposition is irrational. ...Gould's Materialism gives us a theory which explains everything else in the whole universe, but which makes it impossible to believe that our thinking is valid. That’s because an accident cannot think of itself in any objective sense.

Consider C.S. Lewis’s words: “In order to think, we must claim for our reasoning a validity which is not credible if our own thought is merely a function of our brain, and our brains are a by-product of irrational, physical processes.” ....[the] materialist, naturalist ..say[s] there is a naturalistic explanation for everything. How can they know what they are saying is true? They are making their claim with a brain that supposedly results from a chance collision of atoms that came out of the primordial soup 8 billion years ago. .."

54 posted on 08/07/2005 8:46:45 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: Matchett-PI
No - because the religion of Scientism

“Religion” of Scientism?????
120 posted on 08/07/2005 10:29:21 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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