Posted on 08/05/2005 8:52:05 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.
The NCAA's executive committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.
Nicknames or mascots deemed ``hostile or abusive'' would not be allowed by teams on their uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.
``What each institution decides to do is really its own business'' outside NCAA championship events, he said.
Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered ``hostile or abusive.''
The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.
Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).
The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.
Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.
You won't believe it, but the local LULAC/La Raza crowd tried to pull that one. They pretty much got laughed at, though, when every 3 or so tortilla tossers was hispanic. LOL, myself included. Hey, I only like homemade tortillas anyway----tossing a yummy homemade tortilla? THAT woulda ticked me off (or I'd have been jumping up trying to catch them). The whole thing actually started because tailgaters would by bags and bags of tortillas to wrap around German sausage (I ate tortilla-sausage wraps as a child and thought my family was weirdo--fast forward 20 years, and sausage wraps are ubiquitous at tailgate parties). More beer than tortilla-wraps would be consumed, and the tortillas would go stale and really served no other purpose.
Very Good.
Your point illustrates the stupidity in stereotyping.
We all are individuals and we all should be treated equally under the law.
My point in this thread is we can all point to the past and claim nobility.
So what, it is a stupid game.
Those who claim to be "more equal" are just plane losers in my book.
Those who are pushing for the mascot ban are interested in doing more than banning silly outfits.
I heard on the radio today that FSU will file suit against the NCAA to void the ban.
How far will the PC crowd go?
And how long will it take for the non-PC crowd to react?
There will soon be a new commissioner!
You heard it here first!
Perhaps, we could name teams such things as "the Fighting Shiits" or the "Oklahoma Suni's".
This regulation is gonna get tossed out.
The NCAA can't exist without funds.
NCAA - National Communist Against Ath.
They should have expected this commie crap when they started putting liberal profs on their board.
But this will get tossed none the less.
The NCAA does not have the right to address schools mascots.
The charter was not set up for that.
So they are about to face a legal reality.
And the head of the NCAA is about to face an expensive reality.........job loss.
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Hold on now, as a Cowboys fan twice each season I say:
THANK GOD FOR THE REDSKINS!
Indeed, "fighting Irish" was a perjorative phrase in the nineteenth century.
A high school (Kofa HS?) in Yuma, AZ, has the dubious nickname of "The Criminals". Honest. Their wrestlers show up at wresting tournaments wearing striped warm-up suits, and their football mascot wears head-to-toe stripes at FB games. When the FB team runs onto the field, it looks like a jail-break.
Brian Bosworth of OU fame did that at the 88 or 89 orange bowl after he was banned for something (I forget.) He had a shirt that read: "NCAA - National Communists Against Athletes".
Now, that all said, if you meant I think we are any better than you, hell no!
As far as rights under the law as to pedigree: you are wrong there too, or Fat Teddy would have gone to jail for murdering MaryJo. You or I would have gone straight to jail for that crime and also lost our drivers license for years. I hope you don't really believe we are all equal.
I said "We would all be better off today if we were all equal under the law. Indians claim special rights under the law. They feel they are more equal."
Then you said "Some tribes of Indians ARE more equal. "
And yes I think it is a pantload to want to have rights as a member of a group one second and then have rights as an individual the next. Group rights make a mockery of individual rights.
As far as rights under the law as to pedigree: you are wrong there too, or Fat Teddy would have gone to jail for murdering MaryJo. You or I would have gone straight to jail for that crime and also lost our drivers license for years. I hope you don't really believe we are all equal.
All that Fat Teddy proves is that our system is not perfect, that a prosecutor failed in his duty.
The point I am trying to make here is not that we are all equal in every aspect, that is silly, some are rich and beautiful, then there are folks like me.
My point is that we should all be equal under the law. One set of laws for everyone. Anyone who wants to deviate from the goal, with special group rights or whatever, is an enemy of freedom. Why is that so hard to understand?
Have I made my point yet? You call it a "pant load". I call it , "we can have a Casino and you can't".
Wow, should I bow in your presence, oh great one? Guess your group rights do make a mockery of individual rights, I'm just a jerk with individual rights (yea what ever - take your cheap shot) and you are truly a member of the superior race, because "we can have a Casino and you can't".
Might as well take the blindfold off of lady liberty and the hell with it. Let the group rights win. End of story.
You are really a nasty person with a heavy attitude problem, you have to live with you but I don't. What you think as me boasting is merely me stating facts. The Casino thing was just more proof on my part that Indians DO have more rights than some other people. It's a fact so live with it or bitch to someone else. By the way, my tribe does not have a Casino, I was just making a point.
And, about to come true. :-)
Try calling upon West Virginia University and telling the state's people the team can no longer be called the 'Mountaineers'
Speaking of which - as a Celt, I'm offended that the Boston Celtics team name is always pronounced incorrectly. KELTIC, not SELTIC.
Wayne State University Union Goons....
As a Red Wings fan, I think of something much lower in stature when I see a Blackhawks jersey. :)
Me too, but only because they don't win. I went to UND, home of the Fighting Sioux, and I am a Blackhawks fan, so I like those particular mascots too.
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