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To: elbucko; All

>.I don't think this is quite true. You're either a pacifist, a Japanese -American, a Democrat, or ignorant of what you speak. In the end, they're all some form of "group".

Another assumption. Do a search on my 200 or so posts, and you'll see I'm not what you assume..

I'm American of hispanic descent, a conservative (former republican), and educated on this issue (and others).

Groupthink can be defined this way: Take 10 people, put them toghether, bring up a topic on which they have little information, ask them to form a consensus on it, and there you have it -- groupthink. Verifiable facts, solid logic, and reasonableness have nothing to do with groupthink. (It's what libs and stars do quite often...)

Having an education, researching topics, and forming one's own belief system is not groupthink. Having a belief system is similar to the beliefs of others, it's not groupthink -- it merely means one agrees with or has a similar belief system as others.

Obviously from this tread, most of the people here fall into the groupthink category. Most fall into the "abomb is a sacrament" groupthink..

Another symptom of this groupthink is the expasperated attacks on character in place of solid rebuttals or arguments. Look back through the posts and you'll see plenty of insults, but little substance...

Stop following the ideologues on this issue. One can be conservative and not blindly follow other conservatives and Republicans...


162 posted on 08/06/2005 11:41:40 AM PDT by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: 1stFreedom
....and educated on this issue (and others).

(yawn)

You're not as educated on this issue as thorough as you tend to believe. You congratulate your own ignorance, as well as grandly delude yourself.

Groupthink can be defined this way:

"Groupthink is not the topic, the wisdom of forcing the Empire of Japan to surrender, without invasion, by dropping two atomic weapons is. You have couched your position in moral terms, yet you fail to recognize the moral failure of the Japanese government for attempting to conquer Asia. Therefore; Is the freedom of 100's of millions of Asian civilians worth the lives of a hundred thousand Japanese civilians? The answer is a yes beyond a doubt.

164 posted on 08/06/2005 11:57:26 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: 1stFreedom

"I'm American of hispanic descent, a conservative (former republican), and educated on this issue (and others)."

You forgot to include in your description of yourself"

"now proven wrong on this issue for which I have made silly arguments that are baseless and the result of university sociology professors"


171 posted on 08/06/2005 2:06:06 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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