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Las Vegas Space Conference attendees explore lunar manifest destiny
Las Vegas City Life ^ | 08/03/05 | EMMILY BRISTOL

Posted on 08/03/2005 6:51:52 PM PDT by KevinDavis

Will people be living on the moon in our lifetime? Better yet, can Americans do what they do best -- exploit a resource for all its money-making potential -- on the moon? If those at last week's Las Vegas Space Conference have their way, the answers to those questions is a resounding yes.

Don't let the topic throw you. These folks aren't sporting aluminum helmets and drinking Tang between discussions of Star Trek episodes (although the television program did occasionally come up in casual conversation). These are hardcore geeks who are united in realizing the full potential of the moon. This conference is the sixth annual on the topic and the first ever to bring in NASA officials as panelists and participants.

"They are listening to innovators in the community, which, frankly, up until now they've been hesitant to do," said conference organizer Jeff Feige of the Washington, DC-based Space Frontier Foundation. He credits last year's successful privately funded space flight for the Ansari X Prize with the momentum between public and private sectors.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: manifestdestiny; manifestdestiny2; mars; moon; space
America should rule the stars.. Manifest Desitny II
1 posted on 08/03/2005 6:51:53 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 08/03/2005 6:52:34 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: KevinDavis
They better do it before the envirowacko's declare it a wet land.
3 posted on 08/03/2005 6:58:01 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: KevinDavis
Geeks.....geeks???

SHEEEESH!
4 posted on 08/03/2005 7:01:00 PM PDT by EsmeraldaA (That witch does not kill me, makes me stronger (NIETZSCHE))
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To: KevinDavis

Loonies. It's a rock. And rocks are beautiful and useful things. But we have lots of them here where the level of effort required to get them does not exceed the level of potential energy they would contain if they were made of pure plutonium.


5 posted on 08/03/2005 7:04:49 PM PDT by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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To: KevinDavis

Until they hit the private property issue hard, they are spinning their wheels. Technogeeks should be able to handle a little legal theory.


6 posted on 08/03/2005 7:29:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: EsmeraldaA

I am considered a geek, even where I work! LOL!


7 posted on 08/03/2005 9:48:05 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Theophilus
There is much to be learned from that particular "rock". Also, if we do find a use for He3, it will be a most valuable rock.
8 posted on 08/03/2005 9:49:55 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RightWhale
Until they hit the private property issue hard, they are spinning their wheels. Technogeeks should be able to handle a little legal theory.

I am with ya 100%.

Also, we should take a hard look at the regulations for developing and flying private launch vehicles.

9 posted on 08/03/2005 9:52:02 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Theophilus

I think space settlement is a more complex issue than simple energy computation.


10 posted on 08/03/2005 9:53:31 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: KevinDavis
Attendees of the event -- many of whom have a crystallized memory of the Apollo 9 mission...

I have many crystallized memories of Apollo, including seeing live (from Miami!) the last one going up. I'm sure many here have similar memories. But few outside of that crew would list Apollo 9 first!


11 posted on 08/03/2005 10:05:52 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: RadioAstronomer

HEY! That is people who do , well nothing useful anyway!


12 posted on 08/03/2005 10:06:10 PM PDT by EsmeraldaA (That witch does not kill me, makes me stronger (NIETZSCHE))
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To: KevinDavis
I'd be more attuned to the effects of sustained near-zero gravity upon the human body. Not enough has been done to understand and overcome the amazingly quick degradation of bone mass and muscle tone during sustained space travel. This, and cosmic radiation are inherent limiting factors for human space exploration.

This is not like Columbus setting off from Genoa. Space is an extremely hostile environment.

13 posted on 08/04/2005 8:15:16 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi; All

Life is dangerous no matter what..


14 posted on 08/04/2005 8:17:35 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Yes, the entire legal environment seems to dead set against any private sector progress in outer space. It is not the law, which has no natural logic or goal in itself, but those who live in a legalese world who are batting down all plans, hopes, and attempts to develop outer space as casually and as unconsciously as they might scratch an itch. There is no thinking going on, either in the technogeek world or the legalbeagle world when it somes to space development.


15 posted on 08/04/2005 8:48:06 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

"Not enough has been done to understand and overcome the amazingly quick degradation of bone mass and muscle tone during sustained space travel."

The leading mission profiles for Mars transit missions have a near-constant thrust profile to the planet, negating the general cause of bone demineralization. On the Moon, the 1/6th of a gee will do nicely. Additionally for the Moon, the lower stress on the heart could make it a nice little retirement community.

"... cosmic radiation are inherent limiting factors for human space exploration."

Long-duration flight crew accomodations to Mars will be sheilded by fuel, superstructure, etc. and all but the most energetic and diffuse radiations will typically be present. A lot of the angst over Mars transit missions has been on how long the crews would be traveling, i.e. two to two-and-a-half years. Now it looks like about ninety days. On the Moon, a foot of so of piled lunar dirt over habitats will provide complete protection.


16 posted on 08/04/2005 8:31:01 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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