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To: Snowyman

Boys....you are confusing me.
I think what loyalist said is true.
Todays Canada has no place for the likes of smoky.
But you have to go further with the analysis/rebuttal?
I think what loyalist is saying (but I admit trying to speak for another person is intrinsically wrong..but I'll
do it anyway till you guys clear the air) is that the antics and accomplishments of this guy would definitely not be trumpeted or extolled by our present gov't......trudeau and everyone post trudeau.
I wonder if the CBC will even mention it?
Do you think any of Canada's major newspapers will have
some big spread on it. Do you think people like Carolyn
Parish or Paul Martin (who showed up a day late during
D-Day ceremonies overseas) would make some kind of
positive comment on the behalf of this very ordinary dude
who obviously lived with heightened reactive instinct to
kill or be killed?
Not that this has anything to do with this but was
smoky gifted intellectually and academically or was he
just an average snow?
The buzzwords in Todays Canada are multiculturalism, official bilingualism, distinct society, gay marriage, refugee status, illegal immigration, special interest groups, racial intolerance (unless you are unfortunate enough to be white and english like smoky), special privileges and services for immigrants...and last but not least......other peoples traditions and cultures can over ride and secede the current Canadian cultures and traditions..and if you say
anything you are branded as an intolerant racist.
I think this is what Loyalist was saying.
Snowyman threw in a comment that can be interpreted in two
ways. On the one hand he says he disagrees with loyalist, but on the other hand he says "guys like snowy belong here but it is a shame we have too many who don't"? Now he is either crticizing
the likes of Loyalist and is happy with todays Canada
and its status quo.....or he is agreeing with his
statement after disagreeing?
Please clarify?
BTW....you should remember that your Dad was touring a WAR
museum. I would expect the staff you spoke of knew your
dad was a veteran. I would not expect him to have any troubles there and there reaction was quite logical.
Heck.....they would probably be like that with any old
man whether he was a vet or not. The young people they have
working at places like this are well versed in etiquette.
If he was walking around in his old uniform or out of uniform in most other places in canada (anywhere else in ottawa, downtown toronto or other parts of socialist, peace loving canada) you might
be surprised by the lack of attention or negative reaction
he might get. The point I am making is that you can't
give a real reflection on how todays young society views
the world wars or veterans for that matter based on the
reaction you get a war museum.
That's it ..that's all.
In closing.....I will say that War sucks and it is a terrible thing to be in. It is too bad the world is not
run by people who believe in john lennon's fairy tale imagine...but man was born of sin and the closest we'll get
to lennons imagine is in dreams only.


29 posted on 08/03/2005 6:32:56 PM PDT by CelticLord (Let's be clear?)
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To: CelticLord
Boys....you are confusing me. But you have to go further with the analysis/rebuttal?

Really , maybe you're just naturally confused.

I think what loyalist is saying (but I admit trying to speak for another person is intrinsically wrong..but I'll do it anyway till you guys clear the air) is that the antics and accomplishments of this guy would definitely not be trumpeted or extolled by our present gov't......trudeau and everyone post trudeau.

If that's what he was saying , you are both wrong.

I wonder if the CBC will even mention it?

It was mentioned on the CBC and they will be televising his funeral .

Do you think any of Canada's major newspapers will have some big spread on it.

Name one that didn't. Ottawa Citizen had his picture above the fold on the front page and a half page on his life on A3.

Do you think people like Carolyn Parish

Why would I care? Do you?

Paul Martin would make some kind of positive comment on the behalf of this very ordinary dude .

Canadian flags will be lowered to half-mast on Tuesday on government buildings, when Ernest (Smoky) Smith's remains will lie in the foyer of the House of Commons. His remains will also lie at the Seaforth Armoury in Vancouver, home to his regiment, the Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, before he is buried in a full military funeral Aug. 13.

"I look forward to joining fellow Canadians in paying this last tribute to Sgt. 'Smoky' Smith - a great hero and man of honour," Prime Minister Paul Martin said Thursday in a release.

The buzzwords in Todays Canada

This isn't about buzz words.

Please clarify?

I'm saying some get it , Some never will. If you don't get it you never really belong here.

BTW....you should remember that your Dad was touring a WAR museum.

Yes a brand new WAR Museum, opened this spring at a cost of several hundred million dollars. Brought to you , if you ever get interested in actually visiting the place , by the people of Canada .

The young people they have working at places like this are well versed in etiquette. If he was walking around in his old uniform or out of uniform in most other places in canada (anywhere else in ottawa, downtown toronto or other parts of socialist, peace loving canada) you might be surprised by the lack of attention or negative reaction he might get.The point I am making is that you can't give a real reflection on how todays young society views the world wars or veterans for that matter based on the reaction you get a war museum. That's it ..that's all.

Yeah I've noticed the reaction old Vets get when they visit schools . Or march. Especially on November 11th. .

Perhaps you should go and stand in front of the Smoky Smith display at the museum , it's not very big but it is there . It is there so ALL the people who choose to visit will know his story. Might help your confusion.

Or try visiting a cenothap this November . Thousands of Canada's young do it every year. Call it etiquette , Call it what ever. They get it . That's why he belongs here.

The Department of National Defense, in conjunction with The Royal Canadian Legion is coordinating arrangements for the funeral and burial service, which will include a public ceremony.

http://www.pacificlegion.org/smokeysmith1.html

35 posted on 08/06/2005 7:32:30 PM PDT by Snowyman
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