[Kokojmudd]

Surely you are not suggesting that lack of training (of the dog and the owners) and/or neglect has nothing to do with dog bites in general? I have read posts on this thread detailing horrible dog bite stories where dogs actually chased people down the street. Not to mention your own posts which suggest the importance of training and so on.

Ok, I will mention them.

In post 421 you agree that one should have a strong personality to control one of these breeds. In post 469 you say "allow a proven threat to roam our cities and towns." Roam cities and towns? Sounds like neglect to me. Even though you apparently contradict yourself I think you are probably an expert on animal behavior. Therefore I refer to your statements in #469 and #421 as empirical evidence that neglect and lack of training can contribute to dog bites. I was going to post a link about preventing dog bites for your review but it is not necessary now that you have cleared things up. Have a nice safe weekend.

[RavenATB]

"I was going to post a link about preventing dog bites for your review but it is not necessary now that you have cleared things up. "

What I've cleared up...and you've assisted me in doing so...is the fact that there is, in fact, no empirical evidence that concludes that these dog bites are the result of any specific cause.

The fact that a dog happens to be out of the master's control is hardly evidence of "neglect." Anyone and everyone who has ever owned a dog has experienced someone accidentally opening a door to the house and their dog running out. Or, their dog digging himself out from under an fences enclosure.

The truth is that sometimes these dogs get out of the control of their owners by no fault of those owners other than a simple mistake, and the dogs still attack and kill.

Another truth is that you train dogs with conditioned response. You don't have a clue what's going on in the dog's mind, regardless what "expertise" you claim.