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To: patriciaruth

You know NOTHING about wolves.

Hierarchy in the wolf pack is not a static thing.

The leadership changes on a fairly regular basis. The Alpha's, both male and female, lose weight and weaken due to the constant stress of their positions.

Eventually, a lesser member of the pack will challenge and defeat them. The loser then drops way down the hierarchy where he/she is able to rest and rebuild their strength.

After a time, they will move back up the ladder as the new leaders weaken and are replaced.

Only the Alpha's mate. However, since the leadership changes, a female may have pups from several Alpha and former Alpha males.

The goal of the pack is to raise young and keep the whole pack healthy and strong. A male can not know for certain who is the father of a certain pup so therefore to mistreat any pup is counterproductive. A female Alpha usually drops down the hierarchy after whelping. There are often several females with pups at the same time.

The Alpha female is responsible for the whole pack and it would be counterproductive to hurt any pups. Quite the contrary, any lactating female will nurse any pup, since they might well be related.

They have a built in sense of community that has served the pack well over the millenia.


210 posted on 08/03/2005 11:28:43 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search CFR North American Community.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Yes, you expanded on what I was trying to succinctly bring to this discussion.

What you have said in no way contradicts what I have been trying to warn people about.


222 posted on 08/03/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
The rottie is not the "Alpha male" of the pack, the owners are the "Alphas." He is just the top dog in the household, UNDER the owners.

But the owners (the g-parents) were gone. The dog was disoriented and upset, I'm guessing. (See 151.) Here is a "new owner" with a new "top dog" (the baby) getting all of the love and affection, leaving the rottie as third fiddle. Just getting kibbles and water and ignored, while the baby is showered with attention.

Peering into the rotties "thought process," I'd say the rottie was extremely upset at the "revolution" which happened in the household with the "new owner" and the "new top dog" (the baby."

This was a recipe for disaster, IMHO.

And when a 150# fanged beast goes berserk, it's not like a poodle or even a lab.

225 posted on 08/03/2005 11:35:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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