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To: Radioactive
Mac spent almost his entire life in the PI. Ike never made it to Japan. We got to know many of the Japanese involved in the plan to resist the invasion. A couple of them worked for my dad at JPA in Tokyo.
Our maid was a 9 year old in '45, forced to work 16 hours/day in a munitions factory. When Curtis LeMay fire bombed their plant, the machinery was salvaged and moved into caves where production continued until the day of the surrender. One of the "products" she made was a crude, one-shot zip gun pistol that was distributed to civilians specifically to kill American invaders, then pick up their weapons. Ask someone that's been there.
44 posted on 08/04/2005 7:07:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Yes, BUT......Ike knew of Japans plans to surrender...your father did not.This was not common knowledge. IKe's quotes are the direct opposite of what you are saying. IKE was known to be in line for the presidency and had all knowledge of anything to do with Japan. Being the allied leader in Europe, his intelligence was as good as what Truman had. Maybe better because he had connections with all the branches of the Military.

The Nuking of Japan was a politcal move.....no doubt about it...it was a message to Russia to stand back.

Japan had plans to surrender,no doubt about that.

I almost married a woman from Japan. She told me that some of her family was in Hiroshima....a mostly Christian city the day of the Bombing.

She often told me that The Japanese military was hoping to stop the Emperer from broadcasting the message of surrender. They failed. Yes, some of the Japanese people were going to fight to the end, but only if the Emperer ordered them to.

The Emperer was of the mindset to stop the war....but Truman had other plans.......show the Russians that we had the bomb and was not afraid to use it.

We never married because she wanted me to move to Japan. It was too much of a change for me.

I miss that woman.

45 posted on 08/04/2005 3:05:16 PM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Radioactive
oh, and by the way? The Atomic Bombs were not a display for the Russians. The Russians knew all about our Atomic Bomb program and exactly what its progress was. There were so many Communist spies in FDRs cabinet and within the US government at the time it would blow your mind.
If you ever have a chance read up on the Venona project. The Venona project was an ultra secret program even FDR didn't know about and details about it were released to the public in the mid 1990s. Basically we were listening in on the Soviets for some time and learned all sorts of stunning info.
There are thousands of Venona transmissions which still haven't been translated.
52 posted on 08/04/2005 6:06:42 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Ike never made it to Japan.

Ike was a political general. Say what you will about "Dougout Doug" MacArthur, at least he faced fire.

Just for comparison's sake...

Casualties from the Battle of the Bulge- 106,502
Casualties in MacArthur's entire theater of command- 90,437

62 posted on 08/04/2005 7:31:41 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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