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To: DevSix
First off, the current war in Iraq (and GWOT) is nothing like Vietnam - (just suggesting that shows you have a lack of intellectually honesty behind our views OR you are unwilling to be intellectually honest...for whatever reasons).


Ever heard of Cambodia and Laos? Syria and Iran? All four were or are presently used as sanctuaries by our enemies. In Vietnam as in Iraq we are not using our Air Force over the areas were the enemy is gathering - then it was N. Vietnam now its Syria and Iran.

Then we were worried about destroying religious buildings, the battle of Hue comes to mind, today the same thing, we don't let anyone touch a Mosque unless the shoot at us from there.

IN Vietnam we had a war of attrition, today we have an average of 66 dead a month, but because our military is much smaller and we don't have a draft the attrition on our military is greater.

There are truly many things the same in Iraq today as there were in Nam a third of a century ago.

Some of the differences are troublesome also. For example, the United States had not one but TWO superpowers to worry about, which where openly supporting N. Vietnam. Even with these worries, we still bombed parts of N.V. Laos and Cambodia, sometimes. Today no superpower supports Iran or Syria and yet our President does nothing to these two enemy sanctuaries.

So there you have it. Nam = Iraq. Unless we stop this kinder gentler compassionate war fighting, we are destined to repeat the lessons of Vietnam instead of repeating the Victory of WW2. Tagline:
495 posted on 08/03/2005 8:52:52 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC
instead of repeating the Victory of WW2.

Please - You are complaining about loss of American lives in Iraq.....yet in WWII we had over 400,000 KIA! - There were many aspects in retrospect of WWII concerning the loss of life (American life) that we would not tolerate today (most of that for the better) - American forces are infinitely more lethal, effective and responsive than were our forces in either WWII or Nam

To suggest we can fight the current GWOT (including Iraq) in the same manner as WWII (or worried about how we fought in Nam) is just ridiculous (and a flawed concept of trying to always fight the last war)

There are truly many things the same in Iraq today as there were in Nam a third of a century ago.

One could say this about each and every war ever fought on earth (that there are some similarities between each of them....that in and of itself is meaningless).

So there you have it. Nam = Iraq.

Simply absurd. When did we ever control 85% of all of Vietnam? - When did we ever have soldiers who could effectively be based in 90% of all of Vietnam? - When did all of Vietnam hold a National election and it's vast majority of citizens dully elect and new Gov't which supported our United States efforts? When did we move on Hanoi and capture that city? - This list could go on and on and on -

There is no comparison whatsoever between Iraq and Nam (outside of learning from successful tactics at fighting a guerrilla type enemy - though even the enemy of today is much much different in all accounts)

498 posted on 08/03/2005 9:12:08 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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