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David Warren: Imagined Nation (What Canada has become)
The Western Standard ^ | August 8, 2005 | David Warren

Posted on 08/02/2005 10:27:42 AM PDT by quidnunc

Canada has become a phoney country made up of diverse tribes who have no idea what they're doing together

"Why do you think Canada is breaking up?" This perfectly straightforward question from a reader took me aback. What appears obvious to me, may not appear so to others; and vice versa.

The short answer is, because there is nothing left to hold it together. Anything that was particular about the country — not about regions but about the country as a whole — has been obviated by government legislation, or put quite purposely into disuse. We are no longer a Dominion; we have a Queen only on paper; our system of Crown-in-Parliament has been negated by the quasi-presidential rule of a succession of "federaste" prime ministers from Quebec. Our history is no longer taught in schools.

We are reduced to waving a Canadian flag — and that is itself an imposture. The current Canada is something that was invented from scratch, in Liberal party advertising agencies, and dates approximately from the invention of that flag, in 1964. But successive Liberal governments could think of nothing with which to replace the old symbols. Hence, a "new Canada," defined by a bunch of nothings.

Ask a Canadian who is waiting for a bus — or more likely for a CAT scan — what Canada means to him, and he will say something like "multiculturalism" or "tolerance" or "universal health care." These are nothings. There is nothing Canadian about any of them. Every postmodern country has all these things, and none of them are worth having.

But this is old news, dating back to Pearson. The late Pierre Trudeau made no secret of his contempt for Canada and Canadians as a national group, and instead put his faith in universal abstractions. We got what we deserved by repeatedly electing him.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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To: hosepipe

Not stupid, creative my friend, creative. Canoe screwing is an art form.


61 posted on 08/03/2005 1:12:04 PM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beeeeee Albertabound)
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To: drtom

You are up here, where?

Toronto is on a different planet than ,say, Calgary.


62 posted on 08/03/2005 2:02:45 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Canada can't produce a Disraeli?

I think maybe it can.


63 posted on 08/03/2005 2:07:36 PM PDT by marron
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To: fanfan

But both are cool. Halifax rules, though. ;)


64 posted on 08/03/2005 3:42:12 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: marron

Possibly. But remember, Disraeli was Christian. He was Jewish by blood, but he was baptized when he was born. His dad had a spat with the local rabbi or somesuch and converted to Christianity.


65 posted on 08/03/2005 3:43:07 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: albertabound
Canoe screwing is an art form.

Like drinking Lite beer. ****ing near water.

66 posted on 08/03/2005 3:53:21 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: fanfan

Kelowna, BC.


67 posted on 08/03/2005 10:02:02 PM PDT by drtom
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To: Alexander Rubin

LOL.
You haven't been to Toronto in a while, have you?
Toronto....leading the country in gun deaths and muggings.


68 posted on 08/04/2005 7:29:09 AM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: drtom

Well that explains your POV.
Kelowna has some pretty fine folks, for west coasters.

Welcome to Canada, FRiend. :-)


69 posted on 08/04/2005 8:01:26 AM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan
It sure does, it sure does.

Although I must admit I have never run into any of the alleged wide-spread anti-Americanisms on a face-to-face basis. I travel extensively to both Montreal and Toronto (Mississauga) on business, and I found people very charming in either city. Of course, I don't waltz in and proclaim that I am the big uncle from down south either. I learned a few words in French and whenever I travel to Montreal I apologize for not speaking their language and that their English will cause way fewer embarrassed faces than my French. Usually puts a chuckle into people and opens all doors. Of course, the same is true all over the world. People just want to be appreciated. I found American flags outside pubs and restaurants in Montreal, and I have never denied that I am American.

And as for the Maritimes, well, after 9/11 these guys will never leave my good books.
70 posted on 08/04/2005 10:23:04 AM PDT by drtom
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To: July20
Interesting sterotype comments.
71 posted on 08/04/2005 10:31:47 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: drtom
Thanks for your kind comments.

We have a lot to offer and I really enjoy living in my part of Ontario.

When I visit America, I find the US has a lot of great people as well.

72 posted on 08/04/2005 10:35:30 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: drtom

You do realize that polls from people who have never been to those places are just getting their views from what they see on TV. That ranking is laughable and absurd.


73 posted on 08/06/2005 12:14:59 AM PDT by GeronL (Leftism is the Cult of the Artificial)
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To: GeronL
Not necessarily.

The ranking is based on the social imaginary of the polled and that's all it conveys. All it shows is that in the opinion of a sample set of people from all over the globe, Canada enjoys a high ranking. If you find it laughable it simply means that you have a different personal ranking which, in return, other people might find ridiculous. Since you haven't been to all those places either your point of view is equally convincing or negligible or absurd.

Of course, one could easily establish a more factual and thus universally acceptable set of comparative parameters, but in the end it is the personal interpretation that bestows importance and ranking. Or in positivist manner of speaking, perception is reality.

So, no, the ranking is not laughable at all.
74 posted on 08/06/2005 3:30:32 PM PDT by drtom
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To: fanfan

(late bump!)


75 posted on 08/08/2005 5:12:49 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
Imagined Nation: "Why do you think Canada is breaking up?"
 
This perfectly straightforward question from a reader took me aback. What appears obvious to me, may not appear so to others; and vice versa.

The short answer is, because there is nothing left to hold it together. Anything that was particular about the country--not about regions but about the country as a whole -- has been obviated by government legislation, or put quite purposely into disuse. We are no longer a Dominion; we have a Queen only on paper; our system of Crown-in-Parliament has been negated by the quasi-presidential rule of a succession of "federaste" prime ministers from Quebec. Our history is no longer taught in schools.

We are reduced to waving a Canadian flag -- and that is itself an imposture. The current Canada is something that was invented from scratch, in Liberal party advertising agencies, and dates approximately from the invention of that flag, in 1964. But successive Liberal governments could think of nothing with which to replace the old symbols. Hence, a "new Canada," defined by a bunch of nothings.

Ask a Canadian who is waiting for a bus -- or more likely for a CAT scan -- what Canada means to him, and he will say something like "multiculturalism" or "tolerance" or "universal health care." These are nothings. There is nothing Canadian about any of them. Every postmodern country has all these things, and none of them are worth having.

But this is old news, dating back to Pearson. The late Pierre Trudeau made no secret of his contempt for Canada and Canadians as a national group, and instead put his faith in universal abstractions. We got what we deserved by repeatedly electing him.
 
Quebec has a linguistic identity. Alberta has a western identity -- which by now appears to be shared with the B.C. Interior and much of Saskatchewan. (It is, in fact, what's left of the old English-Canadian identity.) Newfoundland has a Newfoundlandish identity. The Maritimes and Manitoba are resentful, mendicant districts; the North is a kind of environmental reservation; and Ontario exists by default.

I live in Ontario, and so far as I can make out, it is the ultimate zero. It eats, makes money and sleeps. It has no morals, no religion, no culture, no purpose beyond getting to work in the morning. No Ontarian can explain what he stands for, except with negatives. The only thing I see is a smug dislike for anything with a shape. Ontario hates the rest of the country, the West especially, for embodying positive qualities Ontario once had.

And it is Ontario that supports the Liberal party -- together with the bought provinces, which live on Ontario's evaporating goodwill (plus money appropriated from the West). It will not vote Conservative for fear that the Conservatives have a "secret agenda," i.e., that they may harbour any opinions at all.

This is why Canada will break up. The Liberal party is absolutely despised by the great majority in Quebec and the West. Ontario will vote to keep it in power, in the full knowledge of the degree of its corruption, for the sake of "national unity." Yet that is the very thing to which another Liberal victory will give the coup de grace.

For Ontario does not even pretend the Liberals are not despised elsewhere. Ontario doesn't care. It doesn't think separatists are serious. It is not even sure the rest of the country exists. Well, it thinks Quebec exists, but that Quebec can be assuaged by saying, "We wuv you."
It is like a husband who doesn't know his wife hates him. Who will be utterly surprised when she sues for divorce.

European countries are still held together by common ethnicities. The United States is held together by a rich, common historical and constitutional heritage, inculcated in children from birth. Canada has become more like an African state, with diverse tribes, and no memory of what they are doing together. We, at least, were something once, but now that is gone. We have become a sleepwalk, a "gay marriage."


(Another Western Standard article published in full on Free Republic and NOT excerpted: Mark Steyn is back! - joins new Western-based magazine).
76 posted on 08/08/2005 5:17:08 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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