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Ohio Special Election Open Thread (Final results Schmidt: 52%; Hackett: 48% Demos lose again)

Posted on 08/02/2005 6:53:19 AM PDT by watsonfellow

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To: Dan from Michigan

HAckett shouldnt be winning rural areas


461 posted on 08/02/2005 6:23:01 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: carton253

Hey she'll go from being a Bob Taft rubberstamp to a Tom Delay rubberstamp...that's a hugh step up.


462 posted on 08/02/2005 6:23:02 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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463 posted on 08/02/2005 6:23:28 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: atlanta67
In the first place, I don't think Hackett's going to 'pull it off.'

In the second place, Hillary hates the military and everyone knows it, so she can't play Iraq veteran.

In the third place, she's got a lot of baggage (in more ways than one ;), so she'll have a HUGE negative voter turnout.

We get a strong candidate, and she doesn't have a prayer...........even though she needs to.

464 posted on 08/02/2005 6:23:36 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: dubyaismypresident

This is really close. Hackett is up in Hamilton County and may actually win in the county. Adams Brown and Scioto don't count. Schmidt will win Warren and Clermont. Wow! Who would have guessed.


465 posted on 08/02/2005 6:23:55 PM PDT by anton
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To: ohioWfan

hopefully..

i am worried about the OH senate seat and Gov in 2006


466 posted on 08/02/2005 6:24:11 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
HAckett shouldnt be winning rural areas

We have protest voting going on as people are angered by RINO's raising taxes.

467 posted on 08/02/2005 6:24:27 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: atlanta67
No, it's not a disaster for the national GOP if we lose. It's mostly because of a mix of local and state politics and a good strong campaign by a very strong democrat who is a veteran of the current war we are in.

Let's not forget that joker Taft, and the scandals by the RINO establishment there.

468 posted on 08/02/2005 6:24:41 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: atlanta67

He's getting the Iraq veteran credit in the rural counties. These people don't get anything but the ads they see on TV


469 posted on 08/02/2005 6:25:08 PM PDT by anton
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To: dubyaismypresident

Protest voting by voting DEM or wroting in other GOPers?

Brinkman sounds pretty good but I didnt like his BOYCOTT the election appeal


470 posted on 08/02/2005 6:25:21 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
i am worried about the OH senate seat and Gov in 2006

Depends if DeWine draws any major opposition, and if Blackwell is successful in convincing voters he will be different from Taft.
471 posted on 08/02/2005 6:25:25 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief ("I do know dumbass questions when I see dumbass questions." - Senator Orrin Hatch to Chuckie Schumer)
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To: atlanta67
70% is a bit much for your average incumbent..

Some statistics from 2004 House races:

Sky-high incumbency rates. Only five incumbents lost to challengers in 2004 -- the second lowest in our nation’s history. Nearly nine in ten incumbents were re-elected by “landslide” margins of at least 20 percent.

Landslides. In 14 states, every race was won by a landslide margin of at least 20 percent in 2004. Only four states (all with less than three seats) recorded no landslide wins.

High victory margins. The average victory margin was a whopping 40 percent. Seven of every eight (83%) U.S. House races were won by landslide margins of at least 20 percent in 2004. Only 23 races (5%) were won by competitive margins of less than 10 percent.

472 posted on 08/02/2005 6:25:27 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline is on August recess...)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

The 'Rats do a pretty good job of getting big name candidates in these special elections. We did indeed lose a special house election in Kentucky prior to the 2004 general election. The 'Rats recruited a former statewide office holder with high name recognition. He ran as a conservative and won the previously Republican seat. Likewise, in South Dakota the 'Rats nominated Stephanie Herseth, the daughter of a former governor and a well known personality, to run for a vacated GOP seat. She won, and like in Kentucky she ran as a conservative.

These things happen. Everyone at the time was predicting those special election losses in KY and SD were harbingers of GOP doom in 2004. They weren't.

In tonight's race, it sounds as if the 'Rats have recruited an Iraq war veteran who sounds conservative and claims to be pro-Bush. Maybe that'll enable him to cheat his way to victory. Maybe it won't. Either way, it's not as big a deal as some would make it out to be.

The nervous nellie's need to take a chill pill! :-)


473 posted on 08/02/2005 6:25:28 PM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: atlanta67
i am worried about the OH senate seat and Gov in 2006

Blackwell is going to win the governorship in Ohio in 2006 so stop worrying.

474 posted on 08/02/2005 6:25:40 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: COEXERJ145

I support Blackwell


475 posted on 08/02/2005 6:26:08 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: dubyaismypresident

I don't know much about Schmidt but she looks like a really bad candidate. I keep hearing she was implicated in an ethics scandal. Plus she looks kind of ugly in the photos i've seen of her. Major mistake by Ohio Republicans. Everyone knows that running a woman against a military vet is troublesome. Why not just run some guy?


476 posted on 08/02/2005 6:26:10 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: ken5050

He wouldn't buy a losing network unless he can get it at a great discount.
He would start a new one of his own.
CABLE EIB


477 posted on 08/02/2005 6:26:11 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
That's not the point.

I would rather my candidates be more than a rubber stamp for anybody and have principles of their own to guide them when they represent me.

Schmidt doesn't...

Not that I have seen anyway.

478 posted on 08/02/2005 6:26:13 PM PDT by carton253 (It's better to have a gun and not need it than not have a gun and need it.)
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To: dubyaismypresident

She'll win..never, NEVER underestimate someone who has run 25 marathons...and equally important..DeWine didn't win..


479 posted on 08/02/2005 6:26:41 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: puroresu

I agree with your points. I just wanted to add another example to buttress the idea that the special elections could predict the congressional elections to come, which, in 2004, they did not.


480 posted on 08/02/2005 6:26:45 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief ("I do know dumbass questions when I see dumbass questions." - Senator Orrin Hatch to Chuckie Schumer)
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