Posted on 07/30/2005 7:03:20 PM PDT by Little Bill
I agree, in that I think that people have a misconseption of the peaceful, loving, artsy, people (sarcasm) who inhabited Minoan Crete in the Bronze age.
Because of the artistic talants of the Minoans the lefty flower children of our Universities have impressed their idealistic beliefs on their interpitations of the Minoan culture.
http://www.fhw.gr/chronos/02/crete/images/thriskia/anemospila.gif
Temple reconstruction.
http://www.uk.digiserve.com/mentor/minoan/anemospilia.htm
Temple to day, thanx to sunken civ
Hmmm, if these weren't highly educated scientists, I would have read that scene, as boy rapes and kills girl, gets killed by girl's father, who burns down the place in his dispair. All of this happening in the mens room (urinal at base of piller).
But that's why they don't invite me on these digs.
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"Wow, and what do you call your act?"
"The Aristocrats!"
Of possible interest to this thread:
"Although long thought to be a peaceful people, recent evidence uncovered at a temple structure near one of the palaces shows that the Minoans engaged in human sacrifice."
From
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/History/Minoans.html
When I was there a few years back (absolutely beautiful place to visit), it was commonly acknowledged that Minoans practiced human sacrifice and although not "warlike" - whatever that means - were ready willing and able to defend their mercantile interests through their ships and the Minoan Civiliation is often called a "thalossocracy" that is, a "sea power" - though most of the ships seemed to have been used defensively (against pirates and the like) and not offensive in nature.
:') The Thallasocracy is a modern myth that originated in Britain, where Arthur Evans' work on Knossos and the Minoans is still close to gospel. Naturally it also plays well in Greece.
Kourion: The Monuments Of The City
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Posted on 12/25/2004 7:32:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Actually thalassocracy "plays" well because the Minoans were expert seafarers bringing in taxes from the islands and defending their mercantile interests.
As for Evans - rather than my writing it - this should dispel that "myth":
http://www.hellenicbookservice.com/Kriti/cretan_history.htm
The Minoans had widespread trade; empires are built by the point of the sword and spear, and the Minoan dominion (however large it was) wasn't the quaint Victorian vision of Evans. For the most part, the Minoans' trade routes -- as well as Crete itself -- were taken over by the Mycenaeans.
It got worse. Marja Gumbas started her Mother Goddess BS about that time and I felt that we Indo European thugs and oppressors of womyn were being given a bad rap, so I started looking closer.
It is my opinion that the civilization of the Minoans was probably similar to that of Pylos in the way it operated. To me there seems to be many similarity's based on the archeology.
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I remember reading about this in National Geographic, too. I think in the late '70's.
I found it. Feb. 1981 issue of National Geographic. Starts on page 204. My copy is pretty worn(and covered with baby powder) so I can't lend it out:)
You know, if they'd put that stuff on the web, we'd all have a lot more space in our attics.
You know, if they'd put that stuff on the web, we'd all have a lot more space in our attics.
National Geographic does maintain an online archive back to Jan.1996.http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/archives.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com
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