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To: maggief
... Now let's look at the rumors: Van Der Straaten is on the take with the drug dealers (Michael Posner, owner of the Excelsior casino I think comes up; he is rumored to have employed Joran as a dealer for his clients). Well, it's common knowledge that due to very lax financial laws Aruba is great for casinos and thus money laundering...you get one of your guys to lose a bunch of dirty money at the casinos, casino counts that as legitimate winnings...clean money! It is also known that Aruba is owned mostly by three families that have known drug or organized crime ties: Posners, Mansurs (that's right- Jossie's family), and Cuntreras...

Well this is interesting, especially factoring in Beth's comments tonight regarding Joran's relationships with the island's casino and Jossy's maneuvering. Is Jossy using Natalee's case to take out an enemy? Is this Michael Posner the same one found here under the North Side Associates? (My apologies if this was previously covered in earlier threads.)

1,907 posted on 08/01/2005 10:56:30 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

It pry IS him, since he is supposedly part of the Chicago mob and is a convicted felon. According to that chart, he's on probation, so it fits.


1,909 posted on 08/01/2005 11:25:38 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Dolphy; maggief

"Well this is interesting, especially factoring in Beth's comments tonight regarding Joran's relationships with the island's casino and Jossy's maneuvering. Is Jossy using Natalee's case to take out an enemy? Is this Michael Posner the same one found here under the North Side Associates? (My apologies if this was previously covered in earlier threads.)"

If Mike Posner left the island, maybe he went back to Chicago?

Awful thought: what if the coverup is due to American involvement of the evil kind?


1,931 posted on 08/02/2005 6:09:05 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Dolphy

Nice site there,,I can barely tear my eyes away!


1,933 posted on 08/02/2005 6:38:25 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Dolphy

I think you have the right guy. I wonder what David Schippers (sp? - the old Democrat who was in charge of Clinton's impeachment who wrote a book about his "experiences" after) could tell us about this guy. I believe Schippers' "day job" has to do with investigations of mob figures in Illinois.


1,938 posted on 08/02/2005 7:24:40 AM PDT by penowa
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