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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

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To: theophilusscribe
Sounds like the media is camped outside Chez VanderSloot. :o(

Get Geraldo to check the vault cistern! lol

1,521 posted on 07/31/2005 6:08:29 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Malichi
New Thread for Plumbing Discussion http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1454398/posts

Whatever it was its gone where the goblins go.

1,522 posted on 07/31/2005 6:11:25 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: TexKat

"If anyone has information that will lead to the whereabouts of this large and unusal sneaker please notify ALE immediately. Unfortuately there is no reward being offered for this."

There may be no reward specific to finding of items, but there is a reward of $100,00 that will lead to solving the case. We don't know the exact wording of this reward, but I believe if anyone who finds this sneaker, which in turn will help solve the case, is entitled to the reward, provided, of course, that he/she was aware of the offer. In all contractual agreements there must be an offer by the offeror and an acceptance of the offer by the offeree in order for the contract to be binding. In a public offer, such as a reward or an advertised item, the offeror makes an offer to the general public. The offeree must be aware of the offer and accept it, or there will simply be no contractual agreement. So, in Holloways' reward, the person who finds the sneaker must be aware of the offer and accept it in order to receive the reward, although in case such as this I doubt offeror (Natalie Holloway fund, which is a legal entity) will refuse the reward to offeree.

I'm no lawyer, and if a UCC lawyer believes the above is wrong, please do so.


1,523 posted on 07/31/2005 6:16:29 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences)
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To: Rippersnapper

"Not saying that is what happened, just pointing out that we should not rule it out as 'impossible'."

In fact it is a good possibility.

It may have not happened the same morning. The body may have been hidden and later transported a couple of miles from shore, weights attached to it, and dumped in the waters.


1,524 posted on 07/31/2005 6:24:08 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences)
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To: TexKat

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This user has either cancelled their membership, or their acccount has been deleted.


1,525 posted on 07/31/2005 6:34:06 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences)
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To: penowa
It would not be more than 5 or 6 ft. deep, if that, or it would be taking on sea water from the bottom (like the pond.)

This had me thinking - Are there no inground pools in Aruba that are deeper than 5 or 6 foot because they have to worry about the sea water seeping in from the bottom of the pool?

I can understand them not needing to put a cistern deep in the ground because their would be no need to put it under the ground freeze level since it does not freeze there. Cisterns are made from different materials but mainly they are made from concrete or plastic. Metal will rust through eventually since it would be underground that is why they don't make them from metal.

Thanks for the info and for verifying that there are no well sources for fresh water on the island (a well just did not make sense since it is a small island in the middle of the ocean.) I knew that they use to have water hauled in from other countries before they built the desalination water plant, the USA was one of the island suppliers also.
1,526 posted on 07/31/2005 6:36:14 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: TexKat

seems to me that if there is muck/mud on the one existing sneaker, it OUGHT to be forensically analyzed and compared to the muck in the pond......this mud in this pond is most likely a unique composition, as apposed to beach sand, dirt, and whatnot from other locations on the island.


1,527 posted on 07/31/2005 6:38:58 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
seems to me that if there is muck/mud on the one existing sneaker, it OUGHT to be forensically analyzed and compared to the muck in the pond......this mud in this pond is most likely a unique composition, as apposed to beach sand, dirt, and whatnot from other locations on the island.

EXCELLENT point! and when did they recover this shoe, 6 weeks ago when they searched his house? rs

1,528 posted on 07/31/2005 6:43:42 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

My pleasure.....shaking hands.


1,529 posted on 07/31/2005 6:44:31 PM PDT by stopem
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To: All

mrs. red wrote:
HEADS UP MONKEYS!!!

Just spoke with Red. He said MONKEYS BE PROUD - thanks to a tip from SM the neighbors of the VDS allowed TES to search their property. You will see on MSM.......

Red will post more later...

YEAH MONKEYS

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=615&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100


1,530 posted on 07/31/2005 6:46:43 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.)
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To: penowa

Great information. Maybe now we can quit screaming about searching a cistern.


1,531 posted on 07/31/2005 6:46:58 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: stopem

Like wise, my friend. NSNR


1,532 posted on 07/31/2005 6:52:03 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Trust but Verify

Thank you.


1,533 posted on 07/31/2005 6:52:36 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: rolling_stone

I'm sure it was the day they rousted/arrested him, but I don't recall hearing about a single shoe before late last week.....but maybe I'm wrong....


1,534 posted on 07/31/2005 7:09:23 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: stlnative

Your story about the body and the cistern reminded me of one I had seen on TV...the murderer made a flower box box and put it over the cistern. Eventually Police searched and found a body with a bullet in it in the cistern..he was convicted..Of I recall correctly lime was also put in the cistern...

http://www.hbo.com/autopsy/episode/episode_3_the_cheater.html

a little irony..they guy killed was singer of the song "Look Out for the Cheater"


http://www.tommcmahon.net/2003/07/look_out_for_th.html


1,535 posted on 07/31/2005 7:12:53 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: monkeywrench
That's an interesting theory. Wasn't Jossy the guy who once said that Natalee was alive?
1,536 posted on 07/31/2005 7:18:29 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: rolling_stone

Yeah... that is based on a true story. It happened in Missouri many many years ago. Thanks FR friend for the URL on it. I tried to find a link to that specific case today on the internet. I knew there had to something written up about it online.


1,537 posted on 07/31/2005 7:20:07 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative
"Are there no inground pools in Aruba that are deeper than 5 or 6 foot because they have to worry about the sea water seeping in from the bottom of the pool?"

When I lived there, NOBODY had a pool. You were not allowed the water to fill it and you would have had to collect rain water for about 20 yrs. (with no evaporation) to fill a small inground pool like a family might put in their backyard. I think there were 3 big hotels when I was last there (Hilton, Holiday Inn, Americana) and all of them had pools for guests, but if I remember correctly they were built in the sand, just off the beach and the sand was built up like a terrace which would allow for what would probably be just a regular installation of an inground pool. Because of the tourist business and their employment of native Arubans, they could fill their pools with fresh imported water. I don't remember any of the small hotels that were there having a pool, just the beach, but the only one I ever stayed in with my family as a little kid was the Basiruti, built in the '50's and torn down in the '70's.

Everybody is talking about cisterns being pre-molded stuff like we use today. For cisterns in Aruba, you have to think back to what we had here pre-1960 or so, before all the building codes, hand-made things. Here we used brick, but I don't remember anything made of brick on Aruba. They use mostly cement blocks for construction, so I would guess they probably poured cement into some sort of form to make a cistern. If it was very much larger than a 55 gal. barrel, it would have been a waste because there just was not that much rain to collect.

1,538 posted on 07/31/2005 7:55:15 PM PDT by penowa
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fingerprint


1,539 posted on 07/31/2005 8:07:29 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences)
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To: TAquinas
fingerprint

You've been fingerprinted?

1,540 posted on 07/31/2005 8:28:21 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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