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Hollywood's disconnect
Yahoo! News ^ | July 26, 2005 | Michael Medved

Posted on 07/26/2005 8:52:10 AM PDT by holymoly

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To: Borges

There was Breaking Training Camp, and Goes to Japan. Couldn't find any financial for Training Camp, but Goes to Japan made 14 mil, not bad for the 3rd installment. And again you have to deal with the opening: 1103 theaters, Raiders got 1078. How can that be explained if nobody thought there was an audience for the movie? Answer: it can't, obviously they thought the movie would make bank. Now obviously they didn't realized how much bank since it then expanded to 1778 theaters, but no movie in that era they didn't expect to break 100 mil was going to get an 1100 theater opening, no way.

But JP still runs into the problem of being dumb, it starts right off when they introduce the paleontologist and he tells the kids about the hunting patterns of velocoraptors, I know there's a lot of stuff to be learned from the fossil record but not hunting methods. Right there barely 5 minutes into the movie it is announced that they'll just be making crap up but don't worry because the special effects are gonna be great.


141 posted on 07/26/2005 4:31:44 PM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: discostu

My point was it wasn't a sell out since there was no clear market to sell out to. They opened it wide because of his name. Why not go for the gold? And JP had a bad script. I'm not arguing there. The second half though was what SS does better then anyone. And what he did for nearly 2 hours in WOTW in a different key.


142 posted on 07/26/2005 4:36:28 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

But there HAD to be a clear market to sell out to. They didn't open 1941 wide, they saw it didn't have a market. ET opened wide, must have been a clearly defined market.

The second half of JP was a festival of stupid special effects with no plot to hold them up. I'll grant you, that is what SS currently does better than anybody, but it makes for lousy movies that insult your intelligence and shouldn't be watched. Which again shows why I will never watch his version of WOTW, it's two hours of the worst part JP, I already saw two hours of the worst part of JP it was called Lost World, I ain't doing it again.


143 posted on 07/26/2005 4:40:14 PM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: holymoly

"My reasons for not going to the theater are:"

Ditto. But add the arrogance of so many jerk-
movie people, including Leonard DiCaprio, Sean Penn,
and the usual gang of suspects.


144 posted on 07/26/2005 4:41:31 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: discostu

I was reffering to the mastery of dynamics and motion. If you want plot watch soap operas.


145 posted on 07/26/2005 4:48:01 PM PDT by Borges
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To: uncitizen
LOL My reasons exactly! Every time a Hollyweird actor goes in front of the camera as an individual and espouses liberal garbage I write them off my list. Shut up Mr or Ms superstar I don't care how you vote or what you think about anything. Just make a movie and then shut your pie hole.
146 posted on 07/26/2005 4:57:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: holymoly; EveningStar; KevinDavis; miss marmelstein; latina4dubya; BradyLS; rahbert; tiggs; ...

Thanks for the post holymoly. Michael Medved ping. Anyone want on or off the Medved ping list, please send me an FRmail.


147 posted on 07/27/2005 1:16:25 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: holymoly

My brother and SIL went to see War of the Worlds over the weekend. A large man walked in and my bro told his wife, "that guy will sit right in front of me." He said sure enough, the guy did. He also had two, what he believed to be lesbians, behind him, one of which was kicking his seat.


148 posted on 07/27/2005 1:21:14 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: holymoly

The sad thing about so many movies today is that I'd much rather see a terrific movie that I've already seen than most of what's out as "new movies."

For instance, I just spent $11 at Wally-World in their bargain DVD bin... For $5.50 each, I purchased Nicholas Cage and Shirley McClain in "Guarding Tess," and Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin in "All of Me."

I've seen both movies loads of times, and have no problems seeing them again, whenever I want. Other movies like that include "A Christmas Story," "Raising Arizona," and "The Princess Bride."

The only movies that are going to be coming out in the near future that I'm even the slightest bit interested in seeing are the new Harry Potter movie, and the CS Lewis movies.

Mark

Mark


149 posted on 07/27/2005 1:22:35 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: MarkL

I want to see the penguin documentary with my kids. Other than tha, I',m not interested in 99.99% of the movies out there.


150 posted on 07/27/2005 1:24:50 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Little Ray
Anybody who remakes "Dukes of Hazzard" is intellectually bankrupt.

Yeah, but then I heard that Jessica Simpson worked really hard to prepare for the role in that movie, and I may just have to force myself to go see it (once it goes to the $2.00 theater) to check her out out her acting abilities.

Mark

151 posted on 07/27/2005 1:27:49 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Medved needs to get a life. All he does is rag on Hollywood.

Well, remember that he started as a movie critic, and until recently, that was his main job. And he's still a movie critic.

Mark

152 posted on 07/27/2005 1:29:33 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: dsc
As for alcohol...seems to me that has tremendous potential to further degrade the atmosphere for people with kids or who just don't like being around people who have had one too many bowls of loudmouth soup.

Actually, KC has a theater like this, and children are not allowed. It's set up for couples out on a date. It's actually set up like a dinner theater, and there are waiters and waitresses (I've never been there, so I don't know exactly how that works once the movie's begun), but I know that before the movie you can order snacks, drinks, or even an entire dinner. It's sort of like movie night at home, but with first run movies, and a really big screen.

Mark

153 posted on 07/27/2005 1:32:13 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I finally saw "Hidalgo", a movie I wanted to see for the past two years, by checking it out free from the library. No royalties to Hollywood that way.


154 posted on 07/27/2005 1:39:23 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Borges
Pixar films fall into most of those categories I would say. But those conditions would exclude a great deal of great movies. Not everything can be for children.

Well, I think that both Finding Nemo and Monsters Inc were both family movies, and perfectly fine entertainment for adults.

Mark

155 posted on 07/27/2005 1:39:24 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: discostu
Walt Disney Co. hopes that the faithful will flock to theaters during Christmas season to see the adaptation of the Christian allegory by C.S. Lewis, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, but that promised deliverance is still five months away - an eternity in show business time.

Two, perhaps three, years ago, Joseph Sobran worte an article called "The Bowdlerization of CS Lewis." Basically, the publishers and trustees holding the rights to Lewis' works (the holders themselves neccesarily of the same Christian mind as Lewis himself) were going to cash in in the Tolkien craze and Tolkien's friendship with Lewis by relaunching the Chronicales of Narnia AND "stories inspired by Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia.

He then related that the strong possibility existed that the new stories would very likely be devoid of any Christian-allegory content while the original works themselves might undergo some pruning.

I welcome a movie (or series of) based on _Lewis'_ Narnia, but I have a sinking suspicion that the new movie slated for Christmas will be something along the lines of Jacksonian or Potter-esque action-adventure. We'll see!

156 posted on 07/27/2005 1:43:52 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Heyworth

People are reading more, and only watching the films they really want to see. If they have no driving passion to see a certain film, they say, I'll wait for the DVD. That's the case of several friends of mine with "Cinderella Man" -- they listen to my comments that it's a great movie, then they say, I'll watch it eventually, I'll wait for the DVD. The desire isn't there to pull them into the theater-going experience.


157 posted on 07/27/2005 1:52:53 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: MarkL

"It's actually set up like a dinner theater"

That might be okay.


158 posted on 07/27/2005 1:53:22 AM PDT by dsc
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To: BradyLS
...(the holders themselves neccesarily of the same Christian mind as Lewis himself)...

Geez, I suck. That should be:

...(the holders themselves NOT neccesarily of the same Christian mind as Lewis himself)...

159 posted on 07/27/2005 1:54:35 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: MarkL

"then I heard that Jessica Simpson worked really hard to prepare for the role in that movie"

Huh? I'm trying to imagine what that would involve. I mean, it ain't Shakespeare, y'all.


160 posted on 07/27/2005 1:58:14 AM PDT by dsc
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