[Hemingway's Ghost]

Half the people on this thread are ready to surrender the entire BOR as long as it makes us "safer".

I applaud their willingness to sacrifice in order to protect our shores, but at some point, the balance tips, and what we've got isn't worth protecting anymore. It's really strange to read people argue that we're fighting to make people in Iraq free, when all the while we Americans are becoming less and less free. What---we have to give up what we fought for here in order to give them some?

[Stu Cohen]

I applaud their willingness to sacrifice in order to protect our shores, but at some point, the balance tips, and what we've got isn't worth protecting anymore

Indeed, what exactly are they protecting anymore? Our borders are wide open, our every move is scrutinized, the "freedom and liberty" thing is pretty much extinct on the entire globe at this point.

[Stellar Dendrite]

"It's really strange to read people argue that we're fighting to make people in Iraq free, when all the while we Americans are becoming less and less free. What---we have to give up what we fought for here in order to give them some?"

Hear, Hear!!!!!!!
Fighting for freedom in Iraq, while the SCOTUS rules in favor of abolition of private property!!