[riverrunner]

God, I hope we can now stop hearing "Bringing democracy and a better way of life to the Middle East will stop terrorism!" and "These Muslims need more education and opportunity so they won't decide to be suicide terrorists!!" and "If we fight 'em there, we won't have to fight 'em here!" All of which were shown to be 100% pure crap. The Londoners (hell, the 9/11 assholes too) lived in a free, democratic society. They had plenty of education and opportunity but due to being Islamic still considered and ultimately decided to choose a wasted, loser life of suicide terrorism.

ISLAM MUST REFORM. Without that, this will never end.

And how are we to get reform, without the above strategies? That is what bringing democracy to the middle east is, a strategy for getting Islam to reform. Let us hear your strategy.

I would posit that the strategy that we are following is working quite well, and we should continue it. Yes, it can be improved with stricter border controls, stricter controls on what is said in Mosques, and further restrictions on Saudi money.

But all of that is only an extension of what we are already doing.

[Blzbba]

"And how are we to get reform, without the above strategies? That is what bringing democracy to the middle east is, a strategy for getting Islam to reform. Let us hear your strategy."


A. "We" don't get to reform. It's ISLIME that must reform.

B. Iran's a democracy. That doesn't make me feel any safer about them nor has their 1979 democratic revolution brought any stability to the mid east.

C. Christianity didn't need forced democracy to reform. It reformed within itself, thanks to the bravery of Martin Luther.


My strategy? Hmmm....when I'm privvy to the intelligence that the policy makers are, then I'll get back to you with my strategy. I agree with you re: stricter immigration and financial/economical restrictions, but again - Islime itself must choose to reform.