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To: grellis

"So you haven't read the books, then? You cannot have read the books, and yet you are posting as if you are an authority on their content."

You Potter apologists always level that accusation at us Potter poopers. What is it, just a desperate attempt to deny that intelligent, educated people could possibly disagree with you?

"Most of the books take place in a school. Why would the wimpy little twit in question have to attend a school? He's got all the shortcuts, right?"

He's got special powers that the school is merely refining and developing. And along the way, we see him breaking school rules, disobeying teachers, lying, and doing things that the dumb old teachers couldn't get done. Those things completely undermine your argument.

"I have no problem with discussing controversial aspects of the books"

Yeah, you do. This is like arguing with Apple computer true believers.

"but when it comes to discussing the actual content, it sure helps to discuss it with someone who has read them, not merely assumed them."

Nah, you can just assume that the Potter poopers haven't read any part of any HP book, and use that as an excuse to give any real thought to the "controversial issues."

By the way, how many times did you see Farenheit 9/11?


124 posted on 07/19/2005 8:33:00 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
He's got special powers that the school is merely refining and developing.

So do the other students. Indeed, HP comes across as a pretty piss-poor pupil (say that five times fast) when it comes to the magical arts.

131 posted on 07/19/2005 8:50:56 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: dsc
By the way, how many times did you see Farenheit 9/11?

Is this the level of argument that you want to sink to??? Really scraping the bottom there, FRiend.

What is it, just a desperate attempt to deny that intelligent, educated people could possibly disagree with you?

I invite people to disagree with me. This forum would be the conservative version of the goosestep party known as DU if we all agreed on anything.

He's got special powers that the school is merely refining and developing.

...which requires study and effort, and does not always yield results. There are a few spells which Harry cannot successfully cast--if you were familiar with the book, we could discuss what that says about the kind of boy Harry is.

And along the way, we see him breaking school rules, disobeying teachers, lying, and doing things that the dumb old teachers couldn't get done.

Most of the actions that you have cited are not glorified at all. In fact, it shows Harry to be a pretty common teenage prat. And no, he does not go unpunished or unscathed for his digressions.

(me) "I have no problem with discussing controversial aspects of the books"

(you) "Yeah, you do."

No, I do not. We have different goals. I am enjoying a discussion--I am, really. If I weren't, I'd be weeding the flowerbed or something. You are trying to convince me that you're right and I'm wrong. Different goals. I am not insisting that you must read the book. That is no different than telling someone that they must NOT read the book. When it comes to specific content of the book, however, having read it helps when arguing a point.

I sure hope that the F/11 crack was uncharacteristic on your part.

168 posted on 07/19/2005 10:53:57 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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