Posted on 07/18/2005 2:51:33 PM PDT by holymoly
Heck, .22 Rimfire has a "range" of a mile - it says so right on the box.
"WARNING Range 1 mile." (FYI: 1 mile = 1760 yards)
I hope I live long enough to see a politician with the stones to stand up and actively seek the repeal of NFA, GCA, and every other stupid gun law on the books.
The gun-grabbers are working overtime to take away our rights. They will be happy to disarm us either overnight or a little at a time. Every gun owner out there needs to join a gun rights organization of some kind. Our enemies are well-organized and well-financed. If we sit around and don't get as militant as they are, they will win.
How way cool is that.
Wish I had an extra grand laying about so I could get one.
The 2a clearly was intended to cover small arms. Take away the 50BMG, then the .338 Lapua will suddenly be too powerful. Pretty soon, we'll find the only acceptable weapons are black powder rifles.
There is a reason the military used full auto machine guns instead of single shot semi-autos (pull the trigger it fires a single shot) to bring down airplanes in WWII.
I recently read that during WWII Americans fired 12,000 rounds for every downed aircraft, and that German records closely paralleled those findings.
Granted these were military aircraft, but they were also using full auto machine guns to try to bring them down.
I guess that liberals extrapolating Kerry's service record would figure a box of .50 caliber in solider Kerry's hands would be the end of a whole bomber attack group.
The point being that the very first federal gun control law, and the only one to be examined by the Supreme Court, was upheld (if it was, opinions vary) on a false basis. That tape would provide iron clad evidence that: "quot; a shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia" Maybe we need to get an NFA case started on its way to the SC based on a violation of the short barreled shotgun portion of the law. I'm sure the Gunny would be happy to supply the video. :)
Of course a machine gun case would serve as well, plenty of evidence about that can be obtained from most any combat video shot during the ongoing unpleasantness in southwest Asia.
And generally more than one at a time. Although bombers did use singly mounted .50s, most of the kills were by fighters which mounted from 4 to 8 of the big 50s, all firing simultaneously.
Ground troops, or sailors on ships, were very, very rarely able to bring down aircraft, even with quad (4) fifties. .50 caliber machine guns are no longer used in the air to air role, having been replaces by 20mm Gatling type cannons firing explosive rounds with proximity fuses.
Clearly was the shooter vs the firearm.....:o)
I don't have a chart handy and you keep them in your head.
1.5 miles and 146 feet of drop? I was thinking more like 40ft.
Of course the first time I shot a .50BMG my goal was to hit the Earth inside of the range's borders. I didn't want to kill somebody two towns over!!
Ballistics for Hornady .510 dia. (50 cal) 750 gr. A-Max at 2800 Feet per Second
At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees. Sight Height 1.5 inches Sight zero 500 metres.
Range (metres) |
Velocity (Ft/Sec)
|
Energy (Ft/Lbs)
|
Momentum (Lp-Sec)
|
Drop (inches) |
Bullet Path (inches)
|
Wind Drift (inches)
|
Time of Flight (Seconds)
|
0
|
2800.0
|
13,054.0
|
9.32
|
0.0
|
-1.5
|
0
|
0.000000000
|
250
|
2564.6
|
10,951.1
|
8.54
|
-17.57
|
19.06
|
0
|
0.306105049
|
500
|
2340.9
|
9,124.5
|
7.80
|
-74.76
|
0.0
|
0
|
0.640873963
|
750
|
2128.6
|
7,543.9
|
7.09
|
-179.52
|
-66.63
|
0
|
1.008348187
|
1000
|
1927.6
|
6,186.8
|
6.42
|
-341.84
|
-190.82
|
0
|
1.413359571
|
1250
|
1739.2
|
5,036.2
|
5.79
|
-574.37
|
-385.22
|
0
|
1.861528594
|
1500
|
1565.2
|
4,079.3
|
5.21
|
-893.20
|
-665.91
|
0
|
2.359082422
|
Crap.
I love being wrong all of the time!
Thanks!
The Second Amendment clearly was intended to cover "arms", not just small arms. If it meant only a sub-class of arms, our Founders could have said so.
My point was that the 50 bmg would meet this definition, as would full auto's......... I'm not so sure about cannon or cruise missles.
My point was that the 50 bmg would meet this definition, as would full auto's......... I'm not so sure about cannon or cruise missles.
I could be wrong now....don't quote me....remember the last time ya did ........:o)
I understood your point.
My point is that if we play by their rules, we lose.
Do you honestly believe that anti-gunners would classify the .50 as "small". After all, it can bring down an aircraft at 2 miles. Ugly semi-automatic rifles with pistol grips were outlawed by the Feds for ten years and are still illegal in Kalifornia.
There are laws against arms which are too big, too small, too ugly, too easy to handle, too short, hold too many cartridges, are too easy to conceal, consist of too much plastic, etc. Why would the "well-regulated Militia" need such deficient arms, they might ask.
The bottom-line is that the government has no business deciding which arms are suitable to a Militia. That is for the Militia to decide, at the time and place when the decision must be made. When the lives of our neighbors, our loved-ones, and ourselves are on the line, we will know which means are suitable and which are not.
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