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Was the rich man alive or dead?

You just lost your argument right there. My point still stands: NO ONE ever prayed to a dead person. What you showed was a dead person praying to a LIVE one!

(And also one of the FEW cases where God shows that soomeone who was once alive in the Flesh is alive in Heaven, Abraham, so, why dont Roman Catholics pray to Abraham? At least you can PROVE HE is alive and in Heaven? (And Elijah, too). There is ZERO proof Mary is in Heaven. Or any of the other saints-so-called.

Race, I appreciate your zeal, but I don't think you will not find Mary in heaven. She truly believed in Christ. The opening passages in Luke should demonstrate that to you.

Whether she or any saint in heaven can hear people on earth talking to them is another unproven, unsupported thing.

best, ampu

Was the rich man alive or dead?

You just lost your argument right there. My point still stands: NO ONE ever prayed to a dead person. What you showed was a dead person praying to a LIVE one!

Nope.

You specifically asked for an example where ANYONE (caps were yours) prayed to ANYONE (caps yours again,) other than God. Race, you asked for it, and you got it, straight from the lips of Our Lord.

Rather than acknowledge that you have been given the exact proof you demanded, you're throwing out more objections. Race, you suggested that I open my eyes, now I suggest you do the same.

Jesus Christ founded a Church that was led by the Apostles, and promised that the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. That Church is alive and well in the Catholic Church. Whatever religion you practice is derived from Catholicism, and owes any legitimacy it has to the Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ. Race, to the extent that your religion differs in doctrine from Catholicism, you can most likely trace those differences to traditions invented by your own human religious authorities sometime after the 15th century. To attack Catholicism is to attack the foundation of your own religion. Protestantism did not exist before the 16th century, and any attempt to project it into the first fifteen centuries of Christian history is an attempt to create an anachronism. Paul and the rest of the apostles were Catholics, Race, and your unique religious traditions only came into being one and a half milenia after their time. If you want to remain outside the Church founded by Jesus Christ, it's your choice, to be made of your own FREE WILL. Sola Scriptura, sola fide, lack of free will, predestination to hell, anti-Catholicism? None of that is found in the bible, Race. If you want to bet the farm on those or any other novel doctrines invented by men a millennia and a half after Jesus Christ founded the Church, that's your choice.

I could certainly respond to your questions about asking for Abraham's intercession, or about Mary being in heaven, but it appears that I am not dealing with an honest line of inquiry here. If you're interested, feel free to look those answers up for yourself.

BTW, if you want to take up the challenge of proving that sola fide and lack of free will are in the bible, have at it. I want to see exactly where it says, "there is no free will," and exactly where it says, "you are justified by faith ALONE." We both know that second one doesn't exist anywhere in the Christian cannon of scripture, and I don't ever recall seeing lack of free will. Plenty of people have tried to point out lines of scripture that are consistent with no free will, among others, but nobody I've ever met has been able to show me where it actually says, "You have no free will."

For the bonus round, can you show me where it says, "Once you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior, for even one moment, then you have been given a guarantee of salvation."? I didn't think so, especially since that's nowhere to be found in the Bible. "Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved."? I understand that to mean exactly what it says, Race, BELIEVE, present tense, not once you have believed once, you have been guaranteed salvation. And as the apostle says, Race, the race is not always to the strong, but to him who keeps on running, so be sure not to let the good seed fall into a rocky place (Mt 13). My friends who have tried to get me saved have all ended up Catholic once they realized that their religion's claims aren't even in scripture. Maybe you will too, Race, we'd love to have a man of your persistence.

And for some food for thought, go back and take a look at your post, 677. You were given exactly the proof you asked for. Feel free to acknowledge that at any time.

"Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads."-Act 26:14