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To: spunkets
"It says folks in Heaven are alive and can see and hear from Earth according to God's will. John 9 extends it.

I don't think so. Would you elaborate so that I don't reply to a cryptic phrase and get myself in the weeds unnecessarily.

best, ampu

760 posted on 07/17/2005 4:47:16 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Re: John 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day."

I'm not sure what you're missing. Please be specific if this doesn't answer the question. Jesus is telling those folks, that Abraham is watching effectively in real time, notes Abraham's joy and relays it. There's no valid reason to take this as a one time only event, or that Mary would have the same view of us now.

Someone might get complicated and say, that this is just related to the fact that, God knows everything before it happens. In that case though, Jesus is telling us that the effective situation for us, as far as prayer goes, is to look at the matter as a real time event. Abraham did indeed see Jesus's day and likewise David's day, ect...

762 posted on 07/17/2005 5:27:50 PM PDT by spunkets
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