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To: jo kus
ACTS:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

This is the problem with Quoting the Bible to a Catholic sometimes. You never read what it actually says, and then you add to it, and then you deny what it actually says.

NOWHERE in this passage does it refer specifically to Jesus being taught as the Messiah and the Bereans searchng the Scriptures as to whether Jesus WAS the Messiah.

While it would surely be the main topic of Paul, the passage NO WHERE says it was the reason the Bereans Searched the Scriptures to see if Jesus was the Messiah/!!

You keep ignoring what was posted, you keep ignoring what the Bible said, and then you re-write what the Bible says, and then you DENY what the Bible says.

That is why Bible Believers do not call Roman Catholicism Christian. You deny what the Bible says on every turn.

As for them being Proto-Protestants, the plain fact that they turned to the BIBLE for their answer sure showed they weren't proto-Catholic. If they were Proto-Catholic, they would have looked somewhere else than God's word, or they would have refused to believe what it said, or they would have re-written it to make it fit what they wanted to believe instead.

But that is not what it says about the Bereans, is it?

It says the Bereans were more noble than Thessalonika, doesn't it? And one of the patterns of behaviour was that when someone told them that the Bible said something, they opened up their Bibles to check to see if they were lied to or not.

That means they surely were not Catholic.

Because as your personal example shows, they act opposite as you do.
1,102 posted on 07/21/2005 7:25:37 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon
"This is the problem with Quoting the Bible to a Catholic sometimes. You never read what it actually says, and then you add to it, and then you deny what it actually says......"

".....the plain fact that they turned to the BIBLE for their answer sure showed they weren't proto-Catholic. If they were Proto-Catholic, they would have looked somewhere else than God's word, or they would have refused to believe what it said, or they would have re-written it to make it fit what they wanted to believe instead." ;


Well Race, those are quite some statements. It seems to me that we've quoted quite a few scripture passages, but you seem to feel we're reading the exact opposite of what scriptures say.


Can you suggest how we ought to read the scripture?
1,104 posted on 07/22/2005 12:27:52 AM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: RaceBannon
You keep ignoring what was posted, you keep ignoring what the Bible said, and then you re-write what the Bible says, and then you DENY what the Bible says. That is why Bible Believers do not call Roman Catholicism Christian. You deny what the Bible says on every turn.

Race, I can certainly see how this would be a big concern for you. Just to clarify, when you say that Bible Believers do not call Roman Catholicism Christian, do you mean that all Catholics are not Christian?

Many of the Bible believers that I know would say that a few Catholics might be Christian in spite of being Catholic, do you agree with that?
1,106 posted on 07/22/2005 1:27:42 AM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: RaceBannon

Well. At least we are discussing the same topic now.

Thank you for your post and quote from the Acts. I would like to humbly point you to verse 11:

"these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, WHETHER THOSE THING WERE SO."

They were more noble.

Why? Because they received the word. Whose word? Paul's.
What was his word? That Jesus was the Messiah. Are altar calls mentioned anywhere? Was his word "read the bible everyday to figure out how to worship God"? No. Does one get that sense? No. Is it likely that Paul was telling them to look in their Bibles to learn all of theology and how to act and worship? No.

What was Paul's Gospel? That Jesus is the Christ who was crucified and rose from the dead.


As to WHY they checked Scriptures, please note the caps of your quoted verse. To see whether Paul's claim was true. Could the writer had made it more clear?


As to me ignoring what was posted, etc. I will submit myself to anyone who chooses to read our posts to determine that. I will accept their judgment. If you feel that my personal example was not good enough for you, I humbly apologize - please point out the SPECIFIC citation so that I may learn not to do it again.

And finally, I ask that you pray for me, as I am doing the best that I can to act Christian. Being Catholic, I realize that I fall short of God's holiness. If I have been unsuccessful, one can only assume that I am not as open to the Lord's graces as I should. Thank you.

Regards


1,111 posted on 07/22/2005 6:13:51 AM PDT by jo kus
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