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To: jo kus

I don't believe I'm wrong about my salvation or how to be saved. We can argue back and forth and quote all kinds of scripture, but we will never come to a point of agreement. I believe you do need to be baptized, but what of someone who makes a deathbed confession for Christ? Baptism IS necessary but it is NOT how you get SAVED. That is a personal choice. Then you need baptism, to seal it so to speak. Those who BELIEVE and are BAPTIZED--belief comes first. Babies can't believe. Those are differences in what we believe. Are you sure YOU are correct? I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, my FRiend.


1,069 posted on 07/20/2005 11:05:08 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Marysecretary

"I don't believe I'm wrong about my salvation or how to be saved"

You don't sound so sure of yourself...

"I believe you do need to be baptized, but what of someone who makes a deathbed confession for Christ?"

If a person makes a sincere confession, believes, and is baptized, he can be saved (Romans 10:10). You are presuming that one must do particular good deeds and such to enter into heaven. If a person responds on His death bed to Christ, if this person at death's door finally excepts Christ as His Savior, do you think Christ is going to slam the door in the guy's face? No. He will be saved, but will first undergo some form of purgation, so as to be purified before God's presence.

You are forgetting God's freely given gift of salvation... Infant baptism expresses this truth of the faith very clearly. We cannot merit salvation. Later, this infant, as he matures, can confirm his faith (Confirmation), during a time in his life where he can intellectually accept Christ. But, again, you are forgetting that the Jews also allowed infants into the People of God. Babies were circumcised at 8 days. Did they decide they want to become Jews at that point? Same concept with infant baptism. It's a GIFT!

"are you sure I'm correct"

Yes. I believe that the Church is divinely guarded by the Spirit of truth and continues to teach the truth. I am merely explaining these teachings to you as revealed to me. They are not my own. Remember Ratzinger's quote on faith...

Regards


1,074 posted on 07/20/2005 11:58:59 AM PDT by jo kus
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