This is Marion.
I believe you mean Marian.
Posted on 07/15/2005 11:29:25 AM PDT by nypokerface
... ah, I'm thinking that might have been Jesus, actually...
Yes - through Jesus. Can't believe I flubbed and left that out.
No offense, but you might want to change your analogy. Unless, of course, you are a "former Grand Duchess" or royal.
i really didn't! people, chill out. i wasn't trying to say anything about any other religion. if I opened a neopolitan ice cream stand and served only neopolitan ice cream, would you come to me expecting rocky road or mocha almond fudge ice cream? both are ice cream. just different kinds.
We believe that as well, OF COURSE.
>> Saying a Catholic doctrine is weird is not insulting a person<<
I AM a Catholic, stating that my way of praying is weird is insulting to me.
Fact (in your mind) or not. If my pants were blue and you didn't like blue, to state that my pants are ugly is an insult. You can say that the bad breath statement is childish but stating that your word is an absolute is as well.
I am adult enough to understand that I may or may not be totally correct, only God knows the absolute truth. Until I get to Heaven, I will cover my bases.
And until then, it might do you well to have come decorum.
Mariology is one of the worst IMO and full of error.
When you come out of a group, you may feel you have authority to speak on some of the issues discussed in that group.
Thanks, I thought so. We believe that too. Otherwise, we wouldn't pray "Our Father."
Yes, Paul's analogy about the body members is appropriate. We all bring something useful to the body. Of course, we Methodists are the stomach ;)
This is Marion.
I believe you mean Marian.
I did not intend for my post to be anything other than a note of the difference in words. That's all. I did not intend to make it seem as if Christians are better than Catholics or that Catholics are not Christians. However, It's not called the Roman Christian Church and the religion Christianity is not called Cathlianity. That's all. Chill people. Just chill.
No.
While we believe in the efficacy of intercessory prayer, that does not imply in any way that we cannot pray directly to God. If we believed that, we wouldn't say the Our Father at every Mass.
Asking a saint to pray for us is not really different than asking a friend here on earth to pray for us, except that we know the saints are in Heaven, which would seem to make their prayers especially helpful ("For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.", James 5:16).
As someone pointed out earlier, the most important theological rift between most Protestants and Catholics/Orthodox is on the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
maybe if I got a zot, I could get some laundry done....
(((hugs))))
There is no suggestion that Christ is insufficient for salvation. Consider this: If you were not Christian or were a nonpracticing Christian and someone found you and witnessed to you and you became Christian, you might might think of them being responsible for your salvation, in a way. You wouldn't mean that Christ was insufficient, quite the opposite, that person's witnessing to you was only possible because of God. But, knowing what you meant, you might say they were responsible for your salvation, taking nothing from the necessity of Christ in your salvation.
My point is, that if they were called Christians, they would not be called Catholics. Americans are not called Europeans as the Catholic Church is not referred to as the Roman Christian Church.
All the food jokes are making me hungry for my Baptist roots. I'm a Lutheran now and the potlucks can't compare...all jello salads.
Yes, I did ask them to clarify and, yes, that's exactly what they meant. I've run into plenty of Catholics that say "Catholic" instead of "Christian" and once I've pointed the distinction out to them, they still sometimes fumble and then correct themselves when they realize what they've said. The main reason why I bring it up is that while I'm sure some people mean "Are you Catholic or Christian?" as an underhanded way of saying that Catholics aren't Christians, I suspect at least some of them are trying to say, "Are you Catholic or Protestant?" and you shouldn't automatically be offended beause people tend to think of Christianity from the perspective of their own sect.
One day, we're going to be sitting at the feast, with all the best food you've ever tasted, sweet music in the background, our loved ones at our side, and Jesus at the head of the table. Something tells me we won't remember any of this sillines on that day.
You do ask a Priest for forgiveness and confess your sins to he or she right? Now, does the bible say that you are to confess your sins to man and be forgiven, or to God?
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