Bias against Southerners misses the mark

Pasco Times ^ | July 11, 2005 | RICHARD COX

[lentulusgracchus]

Texans are the most friendly, honest, laid-back, down-to-earth, smart, no-nonsense, practical, and real people I've ever met. (At least here in the Austin area, and if you discount the insane libs.)

By all means, discount the insane liberals -- they certainly do!

[lentulusgracchus]

Unfortunately, now many conservatives uncritically embrace "meritocratic" concepts despite the liberal elitist heritage of those concepts.

Fallows's point was that ideas about what constitutes "merit" has become distorted by the dominant (Yankee) culture and is becoming a mandarinical dead end. After all, mandarinism damn near killed Chinese civilization.

This may not be the best thread on which to have this discussion, but I am not one of those conservatives who thinks that credentialism or its supporting structures is the last bastion of academic rigor or a properly conceived liberal education.

Well, actually, it is, because philosophies of education are tied to philosophies of government and society, and one of the subjects Yankee assailants of the Old South like to work over is Southern education, damning it for its shortcomings as measured by Northern ideas and norms. They do this constantly, through the medium of university-level "history" and "sociology" courses that treat regional differences in American history, the Civil War, Reconstruction, et cetera. A current "distance education" (TV lecture) series being aired by the University of Houston on the topic of "the history of the South [as lied about by an ideologically committed enemy]". The lecturer informs us that the South is his "adoptive home", and then proceeds to lecture Texas students about its history in a manner that convinces any fairminded listener that the South is his "adoptive home" in the same way that a cow is the "adoptive home" of a botfly or a cutworm. It provides him his living, his meat and drink, and in return he does his best to kill it and return it to the dust of the earth.

That's your immigrant Yankee history professor for you.

[Non-Sequitur]

I served in the US Navy, with pride, and took the Oath, but if the US attacked my state, I would have considered that oath null & void.

You still haven't answered my question. You claim your loyalty is to state over country. If you state refused to support or participate in the Iraq war then would you support that decision?

[Non-Sequitur]

Oh Yea? I seem to recall Yankees surrendering FIRST....at Ft. Sumter.

And individual units did surrender at other times during the rebellion as well. But it was the south who raised tossing in the towel to a high art, surrendering whole armies at Vicksburg and Donalson and Appomattox and North Carolina...

[Non-Sequitur]

you're in denial as usual

Now there's a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

[Non-Sequitur]

FWIW MS has the highest per capita death rate for soldiers in Iraq than any state in the union north or south of the M\D line

How do you figure?

[WKB]

Snip

http://www.militaryproject.org/article.asp?id=279
Fresh Meat For The Imperial Slaughterhouse;
Mississippi Guard Unit Mobilized

July 08, 2004 By Mark Thornton, The Star-Herald, Kosciusko, Mississippi
The Kosciusko unit has 56 soldiers.


The 155th, which is known as "Dixie Thunder," was put on alert in May. It is the largest military support group in the state. The last time the 155th was mobilized was in November 1990, for Operation Desert Storm. The soldiers trained at bases in Texas and California for several weeks, but the war ended before they were deployed.

As of last week, 14 Mississippi soldiers had been killed in the War on Terror -- the highest per capita rate in the country.t


Stats may have changed since then but we still rank among the top 5

[4CJ]

If you state refused to support or participate in the Iraq war then would you support that decision?

Connecticutt, Massachusetts, Rhode Island & Providence Plantations and another state did so during the War of 1812.

You inferred on thread that their refusal to do so was acceptable.

[4CJ]

[edit] Connecticutt, Massachusetts, Rhode Island & Providence Plantations and another state did so during the War of 1812.

[4CJ]

Yankee assailants of the Old South like to work over is Southern education, damning it for its shortcomings as measured by Northern ideas and norms.

So they remove God from our classrooms, and insist that our children could have abortions and practice homsexuality. They whitewash history, and smear the finest men this country ever had to cover their culpability in the war. I guess Yankee assistance explains why children today graduate being unable to read English, when previous generations knew Latin and Greek as well.

[Red Badger]

Those are Cities.........

[Non-Sequitur]

You inferred on thread that their refusal to do so was acceptable.

Where?

[Non-Sequitur]

As of last week, 14 Mississippi soldiers had been killed in the War on Terror -- the highest per capita rate in the country.

I believe that they are wrong. As of the most recent count 31 service personnel from Mississippi have been killed. Eleven have been killed from Vermont. The population of Mississippi is over 4 times greater than Vermont - 2.8 million as opposed to 620,000. That would seem to me to show that Vermont, a Yankee state, has made a greater sacrifice per capita than Mississippi.

[stand watie]

rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

fwiw, one of my most treasured possessions is a US War Dept. recruiting poster from WW2.

the full-color poster shows the US & CSA flags, with staffs crossed. the caption reads:

JOIN THE ARMY & HELP THE SOUTH WIN THEE WAR!

free dixie,sw

[4CJ]

Where?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1311758/posts?q=1&&page=1201#1207

[bourbon]

Now, that's funny!

[WKB]

I believe that they are wrong




Now THAT IS funny.
I'll be laughing the rest of the day.

[WKB]

Ya'll please read 426,437 and 433


Can you believe this guy?

[WKB]

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