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To: Dark Skies
All you've said about Aruba may be true. However, I'm not sure I've seen evidence that the drug trade, etc. have had an effect on the investigation or prosecution of this case.

Also, if you know anything about The Netherlands, you will know that it is one of most drug-infested countries in the world. Aruba is a big supplier (transit-wise, that is).

As for Holland, I have been there and it's very true that it is, as you say, a drug-infested country.

Still, I haven't yet seen evidence that that has corrupted the Dutch justice system. If anything, the Dutch system as practiced in Aruba is far, far tougher on potential suspects than we are here in America.

Our American authorities could probably NOT have held any of the suspects jailed so far, for more than a day two, with an apparent lack of evidence that a crime had even been committed. AND, in America we would have to have provided each suspect with a lawyer during interrogation. AND, I doubt any American judge would have signed a warrant for searches of their property, phone records, etc.

(I'd also like to point out, once again, that despite our distaste for Holland's social policies, they are our ally in Iraq.)

(To all: I have to leave now; will try to get back later today.)

1,800 posted on 07/18/2005 8:51:00 AM PDT by gingersnaps (Trying to inject a little reason into the debate does not make one an "anti-Holloway TROLL.")
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To: gingersnaps
Still, I haven't yet seen evidence that that has corrupted the Dutch justice system. If anything, the Dutch system as practiced in Aruba is far, far tougher on potential suspects than we are here in America.

It may or may not be "tougher" on suspects, but it apparently is poor at getting evidence, justice and convictions or the ALE are incompetent or corrupt, which one remains to be seen.

Our American authorities could probably NOT have held any of the suspects jailed so far, for more than a day two, with an apparent lack of evidence that a crime had even been committed. AND, in America we would have to have provided each suspect with a lawyer during interrogation. AND, I doubt any American judge would have signed a warrant for searches of their property, phone records, etc.

Well your pal Mark Fuhrman disagreed yesterday on Geraldo, stating how easy it would have been for US cops to get a search warrant and seize clothing and evidence from the suspects the first night based on their false stories. He said the ALE blew it. Did you know Joran at first denied knowing Natalee until confronted with the fact that he was seen leaving C&C with her? As for you not having a benevolent attitude towards the 3 suspects, you have stated you "don't think they murdered Natalee, nor know of her ultimate fate." I think that is pretty benevolent considering what we know.

As far as Beth apologizing, it was to the people of Aruba, not the Kalpoe's and in fact she has recently reiterated she thought what they did was wrong and obstructed justice with their lying....

rs

1,817 posted on 07/18/2005 10:12:41 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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