[GarySpFc]

The first clue I had regarding Joran was when he blamed his mother for his problem. A second tip was his reply to Beth, "What do you want me to do about it?"
One of the attributes of the sociopath is an inability to recognize his own error. The sociopath can lie, swindle, and abuse, and never really understand why everybody gets so worked up about it. Without the capacity to feel pain, the sociopath injures himself and others and totally ignores it. He makes mistakes and goes on as if nothing happened. Other symptoms include impulsiveness, irritability, aggressiveness, recklessness and remorselessness.

[justche]

One of the attributes of the sociopath is an inability to recognize his own error. The sociopath can lie, swindle, and abuse, and never really understand why everybody gets so worked up about it. Without the capacity to feel pain, the sociopath injures himself and others and totally ignores it. He makes mistakes and goes on as if nothing happened. Other symptoms include impulsiveness, irritability, aggressiveness, recklessness and remorselessness.

Totally describes someone I was married to....and I see the same expressions (and lack of) on Joran's face.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Gary, you are Spot on Mate, as to Urine's sociapath persona. If released, he will kill again later in life. NSNR