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Karl Rove Should Get a Medal (Good Opinion piece by John Gibson)
Fox News ^ | 7/13/05 | John Gibson

Posted on 07/13/2005 9:06:03 AM PDT by areafiftyone

I say give Karl Rove (search) a medal, even if Bush has to fire him.

Why? Because Valerie Plame (search) should have been outed by somebody. And if nobody else had the cojones to do it, I'm glad Rove did — if he did do it, and he still says he didn't.

Why should she have been outed? Well despite her husband's repeated denials, even in the face of a pile of evidence and conclusions from a Senate investigation, it appears all evidence points to Joe Wilson's wife, spy Valerie Plame, as the one who recommended him for the job of going to Niger to discover is Saddam was trying to buy nuke bomb materials.

Why is this important? Because Wilson was opposed to the war in Iraq, opposed to Bush policy, and pointedly and loudly said so.

Consequently, it was of some interest how he got chosen for this sensitive job which people at the time might have thought would be a fulcrum point for a decision about the war.

You wouldn't send a peacenik to see if we should go to war, if we need to go to war, now would you? Well, turns out the wife did it.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; johngibson; karlrove
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To: LRS
"IF Valerie Plame did recommend her husband for this job, then where did she get the idea? Did she dream it up herself? Or, did someone put her up to it? This is what should be the central point of the investigation..."

I don't like to be too conspiratorial, but I agree there's a question here. It's possible, just possible, that this whole affair was set in motion by a clique in the CIA that was opposed to Bush and was trying to create trouble for him.
41 posted on 07/13/2005 9:49:51 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Eva

Before being exposed as a covert CIA agent by Aldridge Ames in 1994, Valerie Plame was a behind the Iron Curtain Spook. Langley extracted her and made her a Desk Jockey. This can turn an action craving person into a "disgruntled employee". The Wilsons wanted to live the life of a Washington Power Couple.


42 posted on 07/13/2005 9:51:43 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: conservativebabe
What are DUmmies doing watching FOX anyway?

They enjoy being miserable.
43 posted on 07/13/2005 9:52:37 AM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: Eva
Valeri Plame had not been a covert agent since it was discovered that Aldrich Ames had given her name to the Soviets. She was outed then and recalled to Washington.

Then why the investigation?

44 posted on 07/13/2005 9:54:10 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: Paloma_55
"I kinda wish the MSM would cover the Sandy Berger theft of documents from the national archive with just 10% of the interest they are putting into this story."

The vastly different media treatment of the Berger and Plame cases should be held up as Exhibit "A" in any future discussions of media bias. It is appalling. If Condi Rice had done what Berger did, it would have been the next Watergate, books would have been written about it, and the archival clerk who discovered the theft would have been Time's Man of the Year.
45 posted on 07/13/2005 9:54:20 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: areafiftyone
I would love to see his responses!

Even with some expletives thrown in. :-)
46 posted on 07/13/2005 9:54:40 AM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (but not for DUmmies :-))
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To: Armigerous

Be careful they may trace the call ;-)


47 posted on 07/13/2005 9:57:26 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Dawgreg

I would love it. A Senator with guts! Haven't seen one of those in years!


48 posted on 07/13/2005 9:58:35 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Mikey_1962

That's too funny. Maybe your wife is a spy. Better not publicize her name or Chuck Schumer will call for your head.


49 posted on 07/13/2005 9:59:28 AM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: finnsheep

And more importantly if the reporter or Time magazine knew that Karl Rove did something wrong he would have outed him to the public very quickly and long time ago when it may have really mattered during the 2004 election campaign.


50 posted on 07/13/2005 10:00:56 AM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: conserv13
"Then why the investigation?"

I personally place no value on anything that's claimed about Plame's exact role and security status with the CIA. I have seen so many claims and counter-claims, that I'm content to wait until Fitzgerald's report is released. Presumably he will have the facts about this; it would be an essential component of his investigation.
51 posted on 07/13/2005 10:02:43 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Gibsons show should be moved to 8:00 pm, eastern time on Fox.

I heartily concur -- or at least rerun it overnight. O'Reilly's on at 8:00, 11:00 and again at 3:00 a.m. -- even when O'Reilly's at his best, 3 times a night seems overmuch!

52 posted on 07/13/2005 10:02:52 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Armigerous
This is really stupid from you to do this. You do not call the CIA to crack jokes.
53 posted on 07/13/2005 10:04:50 AM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: maryz

They should put Gibson in Greta's slot and put her on after I go to bed.


54 posted on 07/13/2005 10:05:28 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

---- The vastly different media treatment of the Berger and Plame cases should be held up as Exhibit "A" in any future discussions of media bias. It is appalling. If Condi Rice had done what Berger did, it would have been the next Watergate, books would have been written about it, and the archival clerk who discovered the theft would have been Time's Man of the Year. ---

I noted the other day that in the report they stated that Berger had only taken "copies" and that the orginal documents were still in the archive.

What they did not say... and I believe it was intentional... is that the copies he stole (and intentionally destroyed) were hand-notated by Bill Clinton and there are no copies of the notes that were made.

What really bothers me is that the Bush administration is letting Berger off on this matter. Why? Why is it that Bush is letting a felon walk away with a slap on the wrist?

Is he worried about the reputation of the govt? If so, how could it be any worse than what is being done to Rove?


55 posted on 07/13/2005 10:06:00 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Steve_Seattle

---- The vastly different media treatment of the Berger and Plame cases should be held up as Exhibit "A" in any future discussions of media bias. It is appalling. If Condi Rice had done what Berger did, it would have been the next Watergate, books would have been written about it, and the archival clerk who discovered the theft would have been Time's Man of the Year. ---

I noted the other day that in the report they stated that Berger had only taken "copies" and that the orginal documents were still in the archive.

What they did not say... and I believe it was intentional... is that the copies he stole (and intentionally destroyed) were hand-notated by Bill Clinton and there are no copies of the notes that were made.

What really bothers me is that the Bush administration is letting Berger off on this matter. Why? Why is it that Bush is letting a felon walk away with a slap on the wrist?

Is he worried about the reputation of the govt? If so, how could it be any worse than what is being done to Rove?


56 posted on 07/13/2005 10:06:00 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Steve_Seattle

I agree with you.


57 posted on 07/13/2005 10:07:11 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: Eva

If she is not a secret agent, why all the fuss with the media? Everything seemed to be based on the fact that she was working as an agent when, in fact, she is not. I saw somewhere that she was an office secretary for the CIA. Is that true?


58 posted on 07/13/2005 10:12:58 AM PDT by henderson field
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To: areafiftyone

I am more concerned with the convergence of events that indicates that the situation was manipulated to force a dismantling of one of our cover organizations that monitors Middle East oil businesses.

I suspect something deeper is at work here, and perhaps the "fervor" of the prosecution in this is trying to smoke out the missing link to the conspiracy that may be linked directly to ME terror, Oil for Food scandals, and enemies of the country.


59 posted on 07/13/2005 10:13:49 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: areafiftyone
I love John Gibson! He's one of the more honest people on TV nowadays!

....and he is a Texan...to boot!

60 posted on 07/13/2005 10:16:38 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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