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Book: EXODUS – Why Americans are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative Christianity
Vanity | July 11, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:05 PM PDT by CyberAnt

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To: DarthVader

Agreed


61 posted on 07/12/2005 4:51:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DarthVader

Agreed already...


62 posted on 07/12/2005 4:51:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DarthVader

For the last time, agreed. Heh heh heh...


63 posted on 07/12/2005 4:52:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: CyberAnt
I once went to an American Baptist Church in Kansas by accident. They were nice folks but the service reminded me of those generic church services one sees on TV.

A lot of nice talk about nice things but nothing about salvation or sin.

64 posted on 07/12/2005 4:54:20 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: newbeliever
We belong to another very large (but not **that** large!) church in Houston, and keep an eye on what's going on at Lakewood. For what it's worth, Joel Osteen posted a letter on his website tightening up his stand on several issues addressed on Larry King. He agrees that he was way too mushy (my word, not his).

http://www.joelosteen.com/site/PageServer?pagename=LarryKingLetter

65 posted on 07/12/2005 5:04:30 PM PDT by nepdap
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To: ppaul
Dear PPaul:

I remember this story. It was from a few years ago, but the original poster isn't making this up. I was stunned when I heard about it. I hope they can find a link.

66 posted on 07/12/2005 5:07:58 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas (Proud Retrosexual Wife)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sorry about the multiple posts FR was acting up this afternoon.


67 posted on 07/12/2005 5:45:37 PM PDT by DarthVader (Always ready to educate liberals by beating them profusely about the head with a Louisville Slugger.)
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To: DarthVader

It's happened to me too. I was just kidding you.

Take care.


D1


68 posted on 07/12/2005 5:49:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: CyberAnt
What ever happened to them

I don't know what happened to the family. Hopefully someone is watching out for the older children. The killer got the death penalty and is currently living on death row.
69 posted on 07/12/2005 7:40:48 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: jeannineinsd
This is the fist I have heard, though, on the parents being church goers.

As sick as it sounds the Van Dams were members of a church. I actually saw their pastor on television saying how the church was going to support them.

I do, however, have some feelings for the difficult situation of the church's pastor. Although the Van Dams participated in behavior that would have gotten them excommunicated in any other church they were also in the worst possible crisis, the murder of a child. It is awfully hard to discipline a church member in those circumstances.
70 posted on 07/12/2005 7:50:00 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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