"Everybody be nice."
You say that frequently Patrick Henry; every time I stumble on one of your posts I see it. But it is you and your ilk [yes, they do follow the almighty Patrick Henry like one might follow a leader or even a god] who are the first to 'not be nice,' and more likely to use Ad Hominem attacks (ie. Coyoteman in post #5). Just a brief scan through your recent posts and the posts of some of the most active on your evo-list, illustrate your inability to do as you say. You attack your perceived opponent much like a liberal would challenge a conservative by assailing your enemy on a personal level before/or while challenging the argument. [O the horror!]
Whatever. You might as well be nice on your own time. Just don't expect others to play by your rules when you make them up as you go along.
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I also wonder what motivates you to even care about this topic with the zeal you put forth. If you are nothing more than a chemical mixture formed/designed/blindly created/accidentally developed/built/spackled together for whatever purpose, but to survive, then what does propagating evolution's magic have to do with your own personal survival?
How does your own ego fit in with this survival? Does being "top-dog" and the admiration of your followers on Free Republic allow you to choose the best of the available mates of the opposite sex?
Does your ego allow you to have more and stronger babies when it is well fed compared to those with tiny egos and opposing beliefs?
How many of these "evo" babies have you created? When do you suppose that YOUR and your followers "evo" babies will have spread their "belief in evolution" genes far enough to crush the resistance? I ask because the belief in evolution is a real slow starter compared to Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam. I don't knock Natural Selection as it is observable, but your personal evolution might be lacking, but then again, I haven't watched Free Republic for thousands of years but only since Bush II was elected in 2000.
More... So, when you die and your remains have been cremated or placed in the ground, what will all the posts you have made towards the evolution topic and all the effort you spent of spreading, "the evo-message," have accomplished? Do you believe your enlightened state will have a positive effect by spreading joy, happiness and overall well-being or might it have the opposite effect by causing people to care less about anything else but their own pure survival? Might it cause future offspring to understand their evolution in supernatural ways so they might control how they evolve? And mostly importantly, no matter what happens, will anyone ever care what you said, what you did, what you created, whom you loved and if they do/will, why should they consider your thoughts to be anything more than the ramblings of chemical compounds interacting with the environment in which they happened to be placed?
So I ask YOU to, "be nice," and accept my words as constructive. And if you do or don't accept them, does it really matter in the scheme of making babies for the survival of our human species anyway? So, you and I should try to get together and make some man-babies because we all know males are "stronger" and "better-suited" than females in most of the natural world. Call me, if my wife answers, don't worry, she's a believer and will understand our need to survive and evolve outweighs our need for anything else.
USA! USA! USA!
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Pot, kettle, black, etc.
Doesn't look like you even read post #5. I simply presented an oral tradition from a California Indian group. No attack of any kind. Apology will be accepted at your convenience.
How exactly is posting a Native American creation story an ad hominem attack? Who is being personally attacked here? I believe that the point Coyoteman makes is that there's no objective reason to reject this story and accept the Christian creation story; it's just a matter of faith, and that those who support the teaching of creationism in schools would be hypocritical not to support the teaching of other creation stories such as the posted one. This is certainly not an ad hominem attack; it's a point that, if wrong, needs to be refuted by creationists.