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To: musanon

"How could the Constitution 'provide' for amendments that infringe on its principles?"

Article V "provides" that.

"Why do you want government to have a power you agree is a bad idea?"

I don't, as I've written.

"Not really; - government takes the power we allow them to have. -- We have met the enemy, - he is us."

The lawful extent of that allowance is spelled out in the Constitution. Propose an amendment if you wish to reduce it. Something along the lines of the existing restrictions on amendment in Article V, but prohibiting the repeal or modification of the first ten amendments would be something I could support.

"Only if the amendment is constitutional in itself. Our right to arms is inalienable, and cannot be 'repealed'."

Nothing is "unconstitutional" unless prohibited (or not authorized) by the constitution in question. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the word "inalienable" used.

"Doing violence to 'language' is of concern when infringements of rights are at issue? That's quite the principle."

If you are not willing to use language as a means of common understanding, no discussion is possible.


292 posted on 07/14/2005 6:52:41 AM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: Ruadh
Our right to arms is inalienable, and cannot be 'repealed'."
Doing violence to 'language' is of concern when infringements of rights are at issue? That's quite the principle.

"If you are not willing to use language as a means of common understanding, no discussion is possible."
"Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the word "inalienable" used."

Inalienable is used in the Declaration to define our rights to life, liberty, & property, as noted in the Constitution.


"Nothing is "unconstitutional" unless prohibited (or not authorized) by the constitution in question."

The 2nd clearly prohibits infringements on our right to bear arms.
293 posted on 07/14/2005 7:47:23 AM PDT by musanon
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