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In World War II, did we say we want Hitler dead, but most Germans are really fine people? No. We charaterized them as Krauts, as bad people. Were there find Germans, of course there were. But, not being raised in a fanatical death cult, (islam), we have trouble just singling out a group to do battle with, unless/until we dehumanize them.

Serious question (hoping you're off your high horse from yesterday)...........do you seriously think that, if we had the technology in WWII to defeat Hitler and win the war without killing innocent German women and children, that we would not have done so? And do you think it would have been the right thing to do.........that is to kill innocent people even though we had the ability to win the war without doing so?

Do you think that the babies and toddlers of Muslims should be indiscriminately slaughtered because their fathers follow the Koran? Really? Do you think that Iraqi children, now living in freedom in a fledgling democracy and seeing the incredible example of our American soldiers who play soccer with them and give them candy and care for them, should have been indiscriminately slaughtered because of their parents' religion? Really? Is that really where your study of Islam has led you?

To believe that killing them all is the solution is absolutely no better than what the radicals among them believe about us. As Christians.......those of us who actually are followers of Christ, that is....... we cannot engage in the same behavior that we rightfully condemn as evil in our enemy.

(btw, my comments about violence yesterday were in accordance with the rules of FR..........not from any arrogance as you implied).

Baby Muslims carry AK's, big Muslims carry TNT.
Know thy enemy. The Muslim children are taught from day one that killing infidels and jews is an honor in the name of Allah. We are not just at war with Al Qaeda, we are at war with an ideology and the only thing these animals understand is bombs. Everything you see them doing from so-called condemning acts of violence to yelling torture is all apart of their M.O. and a ploy to once again get the upper hand. Looks like you fell hook, line and sinker. Also apart of their M.O. is to spread as many rumors as they can to keep the youth attached to their "unknown" cause. I remember when our soldiers were passing candy to a young Muslim child a grown up got on TV and insisted the American's were giving poison candy to the children. The next clips showed parents pulling their kids away from the US. These Muslims are so naive that nothing anyone could say to them will convince them that they we are not "evil".

"(btw, my comments about violence yesterday were in accordance with the rules of FR..........not from any arrogance as you implied)."

First things first. The thread wasn't pulled, so obviously the moderator thought the comments were within the spirit of FR. Therefore, it's logical to assume you were being overly sensitive. Then you asked me to rephrase before you'd address my question. To me, that is a little condescending right there. I'd rather you didn't respond then tell me to rephase my question. Having said that, I do like to debate. I will defend my positions, and I try to learn.

"do you seriously think that, if we had the technology in WWII to defeat Hitler and win the war without killing innocent German women and children, that we would not have done so?"

I think you do what you have to in war. We don't target women and children, as muslims do. However, war can be ugly, and there will be times of collateral damage. Is the life of a civilian worth more than the life of a soldier? We did drop atomic bombs on Japan. We had the ability to defeat Japan without using atomic weapons.
Also, this is a different kind of war, a different enemy. There is no "Hitler" to defeat. If we captured and executed Osama bin Laden tomorrow, the war would continue on. The combatants on the muslim side can and will be women and children with bombs strapped to their backs.
I'm telling you, we need to steel ourselves and prepare to do what we need to, however distasteful, or be prepared to learn the Koran.

"Do you think that the babies and toddlers of Muslims should be indiscriminately slaughtered because their fathers follow the Koran? Really?"

Now you get emotional. No, I never advocated that. But in war, ugly things happen. I don't say this lightly. I value all life. But, if civilians die in a necessary action, like the action in Falujah, I won't wring my hands. The enemy would gleefully kill our children. I would advocate targeting military targets, but if they sheild themselves with innocents, I'd kill them rather than allow them to kill our soldiers.
Part of what went wrong in VietNam is we kneecapped our military and wouldn't allow them to really fight. We had to be politically correct, and sensitive.

War can be likened to a street fight. Avoid it at all costs. If you get into it, you WILL get bloody. However, once you start, fight will all you have, or you will take a beating.