Ooh. Hit a nerve, did I?
Let me explain it too you: I don't truly have the answers, I readily admit, but if you have come to the conclusion that we're not going to win, and that the islamofascists ARE going to win, you've already given up. So be it.
Frank enough for you, chum?
Funny, as long as there is an AMERICA, I really don't see them winning. What I think may happen though is that we may need another jolt unfortunately, since many have become quite utterly complacent and fatalistic. We may have to fight a hot war here with our enemy.
But we would win that campaign.
Don't post defeatist drivel unless you like to get back some heat.
"You can make your snide comments, but our nation is in grave danger."
I happen to agree with you.
"IMO, we're not facing the enemy but making it easier for them to ultimately win."
We're fighting a war against the liberals and our general human nature to subjugate those different from us. It's what we face on the domestic front, and we have to win that, too. There is NO choice in that, unless we're all a bunch of worthless pukes. Personally, I see a great value mass of citizens in this country for the most part and refuse to get all maudlin about the sill ba$tards that get in the way.
"It's not defeatism, it's an analysis of the situation."
The answer produced by your analysis indicates our defeat, what do you think that means?
Glad I got under your skin. It was easier than I thought, though it was only to light the fire for you. I truly think you've let some things get you down, instead of worrying about what we MUST do to win.
Nothing, including you, is under my skin and I'm not maudlin.
Ultimately, the only way we will be able to stop the Islamofascists from succeeding in making sharia the law of the land in the United States - their stated goal - is to expell the Muslims. I don't see any other way around it. But I also don't think that could ever happen here. Even if it became politically acceptable, the ACLU and the courts would stop it.
It's not defeatism, I'm looking for the flaw in my analysis. I'd like to know how I'm wrong and how we're going to defeat Islam, particularly when we're unwilling to face the fact (as a Nation) that our enemy is Islam. Even if CAIR sincerely condemns the terrorist actions, the terrorists and CAIR have the same stated goal. Worldwide domination for their religion.
We can't, and won't, kill them all (though plenty here see that as a reasonable response). We can't, without in some way circumventing the liberties our Constitution provides to us, expell Muslims with the only cause being their beliefs.
We're fighting an enemy like none we've ever faced - even communism isn't the same as this. There needs to be some kind of strategy for an ultimate victory, and no one has that. We're not working toward a goal, and if we're going to win then we should be.