[Fudd Fan]

I still think that plane that 'fell apart' over Queens (?) after 9/11 was a successful shoe bomber

So do I.

[lentulusgracchus]

[fanfan] I still think that plane that 'fell apart' over Queens (?) after 9/11 was a successful shoe bomber

[Fudd Fan] So do I.

Crash eyewitnesses described aircraft behavior completely inconsistent with a shoe-bombing. A small bomb would more than likely (>80%) be ineffectual at such low altitude and speed. Weapons like that rely on aircraft speed and altitude (pressurization) to work. The initial skin rupture enlarges and the airframe disintegrates. That requires high speed and high altitude.

The Dominicana Airbus became unstable in the wake of a Japan Air Lines 747 it was following, lost its vertical stabilizer, and rolled belly-up and sideways, breaking apart under excessive g-forces at low altitude before falling into a Rockaway neighborhood.