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Anheuser-Busch loses appeal in hidden-camera case
bizjournals.com via Yahoo! ^ | July 6, 2005 | bizjournals.com

Posted on 07/06/2005 8:14:57 AM PDT by Brilliant

Anheuser-Busch lost an appeals court case Tuesday against workers who were fired after the brewer discovered by using hidden cameras they were using illegal drugs at the workplace, according to published reports.

Five workers lost their jobs as a result of being caught on tape smoking marijuana in a break area. As a result of the ruling, the brewer could be required to reemploy the workers.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit found that the company should have informed the union, Brewers and Maltsters, Local Union No. 6, before installing cameras.

The case now returns to the National Labor Relations Board to determine whether the employees are entitled to be reinstated or to other remedies.

St. Louis-based Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc., the largest domestic brewer, manufactures and recycles aluminum cans and operates theme parks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anheuserbusch; courts; dopers; marijuana; nlrb

1 posted on 07/06/2005 8:14:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

What if the two workers were seen, on camera, to have assaulted someone? Would they then be entitled, at least in theory, to be re-instated to their jobs because the local union had not been told of the camera's existence?


2 posted on 07/06/2005 8:18:10 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: Brilliant

Stupid. No other words for it. It's stupid.


3 posted on 07/06/2005 8:22:10 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: Brilliant

I thought employers have carte blanche to do whatever they want at the workplace, unless they somehow gave away that right in the CBA with the union.

Morons who smoke illegal drugs in the workplace should be fired for stupidity, cameras or no cameras.


4 posted on 07/06/2005 8:22:47 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: biblewonk
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit found that the company should have informed the union, Brewers and Maltsters, Local Union No. 6, before installing cameras.

I would think a blanket statement such as, "Anheuser-Busch reserves the right to monitor our employees' activities to the fullest extent of the law" would have sufficed.

Union ping.

5 posted on 07/06/2005 8:23:01 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
I would think a blanket statement such as, "Anheuser-Busch reserves the right to monitor our employees' activities to the fullest extent of the law" would have sufficed.

That depends on what kind of agreement they have with the union in question.

6 posted on 07/06/2005 8:24:39 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Brilliant

So if a store catches someone stealing on a video camera, they now can't prosecute? What an idiotic decision! Where does it end. If I put a camera in my home and catch the babysitter going through my underwear do I have to pay her double? :-)


7 posted on 07/06/2005 8:24:49 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Modernman
That depends on what kind of agreement they have with the union in question.

Of course it does.

Any employer which puts itself in a position where it gives away its right to sh*tcan any employee caught breaking the law, especially on the premises -- no matter how they're caught -- deserves whatever punishment the system doles out.

Someone at A-B is responsible for and should fear losing his or her job over this debacle.

8 posted on 07/06/2005 8:33:07 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: rhombus
I put a camera in my home and catch the babysitter going through my underwear do I have to pay her double?

Do you really need a camera to know when the babysitter is (ahem) "going through [your] underwear"?

Oh, maybe you meant your underwear drawer.

;O)

9 posted on 07/06/2005 8:34:56 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Brilliant
This is so F$#$ING Dumb!!!

This is WHY UNIONs are WORTHLESS!!!
Don't they know by protecting dumb-a$$ employees all they are doing is hurting the company therefore THEIR JOBS!!! Let me see what other union companies are doing well, GM, Ford?!?!?

Impeach these "judges"!!! I guess they are afraid some employee might be disciplined for taking too long for a "Smoke" break.

I don't want to work for a company were where a union prick can smoke a joint in the break room.
10 posted on 07/06/2005 8:36:41 AM PDT by Savage_Nation
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To: Brilliant

Thank God for Right to Work States. Don't have to put up with union garbage.


11 posted on 07/06/2005 8:41:43 AM PDT by WeddingPlanner
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To: Savage_Nation

Apparently, they can fire their managers for drinking Miller Lite, but they can't fire their loading dock guys for smoking pot.


12 posted on 07/06/2005 8:42:26 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: newgeezer
Do you really need a camera to know when the babysitter is (ahem) "going through [your] underwear"?

Well some of us wealthy Republicans own more than one pair. ;-)

13 posted on 07/06/2005 8:52:04 AM PDT by rhombus
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OK, so don't fire them. Call the cops. Then fire them for not showing up for work.


14 posted on 07/06/2005 8:55:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: rhombus
If I put a camera in my home and catch the babysitter going through my underwear do I have to pay her double? :-)

Only if she mates your socks while she's there.

15 posted on 07/06/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Ditto
Only if she mates your socks while she's there.

If she did that I could sell the video too.

16 posted on 07/06/2005 8:59:55 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Then you would have to pay residuals too.


17 posted on 07/06/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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