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Or: to put it another way, as I used to say in High-School: It is like a Nuclear reactor, in a meltdown event:: once the process goes so far, NOTHING will stop it-- and I feel that is where we are today. It would take a REVOLUTIONARY change, to return things to the way things should be-- and VERY few MEN or WOMEN, would be willing to do the things to effect this positive return to morality(as in: give up fooling around, shacking up, porn, the "me" attitude, AND a return to God in their lives, and in the throes of society,and all that entails, and so on)

I also like to use the atomic reactor analogy too. I think society should have "scrammed" (shut down the reactor really quick, pushing in all control rods and filling the reactor with cool water) the out of control reaction this caused way back in the 1960's. I remember in high school having similar conversations with one of my favorite teachers, my German teacher, as far back as 1982, we used to talk about stuff like this about society in general and he did say a lot of the things then to what we are seeing now and the deterioration of our society is "part of a plan" to weaken us. We kept the relationship going well past high school until he passed away in 1993, I would love to hear his takes on the moral decay as it has progressed in society today, 9-11, and so on. I remember he made one point to where sometimes things do have to crash so we can rebuild things to the old values. Maybe we need some of that to shake people awake, I don't know.

I've heard stories of Christian and other communities springing up with the idea of being self sufficient to ride out the coming storm.

I don't know myself, but all I can say is we are in a heap of hurt in this world and something bad is going to happen, I don't know where, what, when, but I see something on the radar here. B-P

I've been toying with writing a story where time travellers want to go back in time and abort the social revolutions of the 1960's, so far nothing is down on paper or disc drive but I sort of got the inspiration from Harry Turtledove's "Guns of the South" but the time travellers are the good guys.

I just wish we would all get beyond the bitterness here, I do see some silver linings out there but I do think your meltdown analogy is closer to the truth. We need to stifle the "all for me" attitude, I think when you boil all of this down be it "free love," "radical feminism," and so on, it is all about "me" and heck with everyone else and society.