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I agree, young men aren't pursuing a career as aggressively as they once did. Would any of this have it's genesis in the modern male stereotype? You know, the one where we've gone from a benevolent, wise father figure, (Ozzie Nelson, Andy Griffith, Ward Clever), to the inept, stupid father figure, (Ray Barrone, Homer Simpson, Al Bundy)?

Why is it you guys always leave out the positive father figures in modern TV shows when you make these comparisons? Heathcliff Huxtable, Eric Cramden, and Jonathan Kent to name a few always seem to be left out. Ray Barone isn't that much of a bumbling father btw, seems like a fairly realistic portrayal to me.