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To: Bon mots; Cyrano; shaggy eel

The title looks OK. ... Women do need to change, but real discerning/leader men wouldn't get involved with women who aren't interested in personal change, and then perhaps the women would learn that to gain acceptance from men, it's much more than just dressing sexy and being good at ...those things.

It's funny how we each blame the other sex when it's such an individual thing. I have seen wimpy men, who sit around and whine about how bad women are, instead of just being a leader and doing the right thing regardless of whether 'women' follow. That's the only way to *find* a good woman, is to be a good man. And vice versa.

In the order of things, the men are to lead, and that means in relationships as well. Not all women, and maybe not even the individual man's wife, may follow, depending on her level of 'screwed-up-ness.' But just because one spouse is a jerk shouldn't stop anyone from getting themselves right. (applies to both male *and* female.)

Women tend to be more emotional and get screwed up that way from making clear relationship decisions; men tend to be led by their hormones and visual temptations and that screws them up that way, preventing them from making good partner decisions.

Both have their own individual hang-ups and differing degrees of sex-oriented-weaknesses that we need to learn to overcome in order to learn to see straight.


309 posted on 07/05/2005 10:13:04 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Terriergal
men tend to be led by their hormones and visual temptations and that screws them up that way, preventing them from making good partner decisions.

,,, first time round, I'd agree. No more Ford Pintos on two legs for me in the marriage game though. Second time round, the big head did the thinking. So far, so good.

737 posted on 07/06/2005 2:45:56 AM PDT by shaggy eel
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